Pseudo-random numbers in [0, n), covering all numbers in n steps?
Joseph Rushton Wakeling via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Fri Feb 26 00:05:09 PST 2016
On Thursday, 25 February 2016 at 17:27:25 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
> So we have
> https://dlang.org/phobos/std_random.html#.randomCover which
> needs to awkwardly allocate memory to keep track of the
> portions of the array already covered.
Yes, this is definitely a standout in terms of being an
unpleasant solution. It means that you require o(N) memory even
when you're dealing with a lazily-evaluated range -- it would
probably be more efficient in practice to just write the input
into an array and do an in-place shuffle. :-(
> This could be fixed by devising a PRNG that takes a given
> period n and generates all numbers in [0, n) in exactly n steps.
>
> However, I've had difficulty finding such PRNGs. Most want the
> maximum period possible so they're not concerned with a given
> period. Any insights?
I'll try to see what I can find. This must be something that
other lazy/functional communities (Haskell, Clojure, ...) have
had to contend with.
BTW I would caution that with pseudo-RNGs per se, the problem is
not so much the size of the period per se, as the fact that it's
not very random (in the sense that a PRNG is aiming for) to visit
every possible value within the range of the RNG exactly once
before repeating ... ;-)
> BTW I found this statement in the documentation rather odd:
> "These issues will be resolved in a second-generation
> std.random that re-implements random number generators as
> reference types." The documentation is not a place for making
> vague promises and speculations about future developments. I
> think it should be removed.
Yes, I agree. That was written at a time when those of us
focused on std.random had great hope that a new design was
immediately on the cards. I can probably find the PRs if you
want to see the context.
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