TIOBE December 2015 - D rose 5 positions

[Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 8 January 2016 at 04:10:58 UTC, Joakim wrote:

> OK, not a full C competitor, but taking some of the 
> higher-level work.  I think D could take all of C's domain, 
> Walter certainly knows how.

He has categorically refused to add volatile or VLA...

> Yes, which is why many apps that are debuting now are native 
> mobile-only, their devs can't be bothered with arcane and 
> inefficient legacy platforms like the web. :)

Which ones? The only one I know of are either redundant or 
involves payment. Developing for mobile is maybe 8x more 
expensive than web...

> You could always splice in the debug info if you're debugging, 
> right?  I saw some talk on their github about using DWARF or 
> some other debug format: they're considering those tooling 
> issues now.

Depends on browser vendors...

> A scene graph jammed into an antiquated document layout, then 
> stylesheet and scripting languages mashed on top: what could go 
> wrong? :D

Uhm, not sure what you mean by that. Qt, cocoa etc are more old 
fashioned...
You also have WAI requirements... Required by law!

> Complexity kills.  Try searching the Chromium issue tracker for 
> "painting" and see how many issues pop up:

I experience this once every two years. Usually fixed in less 
than a day.

> I suggested something completely different in my post, chucking 
> the web stack altogether and starting from scratch.  The 
> incremental approaches you suggest cannot really change much.

Did you provide a novel solution?

> Sounds like you're joking, but I was surprised to find that the 
> torrent client I ran on my Android tablet ran really fast, 
> better than the one I tried on my laptop.  There's a p2p wave 
> coming, that will kill off most of this stupid cloud stuff, and 
> take down the web stack with it.

You cannot rely on static IP address.

> Let's see, I present arguments why it will happen, while you 
> simply state that it cannot.  Who is it that's thinking 
> wishfully here? :)

Statistically unlikely when you reach critical mass. The web has 
more critical mass than any other IT infrastructure.

> I'm not sure what you mean by the web going down that path, but 
> I'm talking about not sending GUI info whatsoever, ie going 
> back to something like plaintext email, where users simply send 
> messages back and forth and the client figures out how to 
> render it.

Wont happen as long as there are business opportunities in 
creating islands. Only works if open source destroy the market. 
Ref the web.