D is crap

[Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d]

On Saturday, 9 July 2016 at 09:15:19 UTC, Chris wrote:
> Yes, of course the "write-once-run-everywhere" fairy tale 
> helped to spread Java, but while it was gaining traction GC 
> became a feature everybody wanted. Sorry, but there is not a 
> single book or introduction to Java that doesn't go on about 
> how great GC is.

Just like there is no C++ book that does not rant about how great 
RAII is... What do you expect from a language evangelic? The 
first Java implementation Hotspot inherited its technology from 
StrongTalk, a Smalltalk successor. It was not a Java phenomenon, 
and FWIW both Lisp, Simula and Algol68 were garbage collected.

What was "new" with Java was compile-once-run-everywhere. 
Although, that wasn't new either, but it was at least marketable 
as new.

> Java was the main catalyst for GC - or at least for people 
> demanding it. Practically everybody who had gone through IT 
> courses, college etc. with Java (and there were loads) wanted 
> GC. It was a given for many people.

Well, yes, of course Java being used in universities created a 
demand for Java and similar languages. But GC languages were 
extensively used in universities before Java.

> Yes, it didn't last long. But the fact that they bothered to 
> introduce it, shows you how big GC was/is.

No, it shows how demanding manual reference counting was in 
Objective-C on regular programmers. GC is the first go to 
solution for easy memory management, and has been so since the 
60s. Most high level languages use garbage collection.