Vision for the D language - stabilizing complexity?

[Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d]

On Thursday, 14 July 2016 at 17:36:59 UTC, Chris wrote:
> On Thursday, 14 July 2016 at 15:59:30 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
> wrote:
>> Not sure what you mean by calling D multi-paradigm.
>
> As opposed to Java that is 100% OOP (well 99%).

Which programming model is it that D supports that Java doesn't?
Functional? Logic? ...?


> Ok, this is called a metaphor, a figure of speech.

Poor metaphor. :)


>But, uh, you do get it, don't you?

That's right, I don't get it, and it isn't true. Walter's vision 
obviously changed with D2, it was a shift in the core original 
vision which focused on creating a significantly simpler language 
than C++.

That's perfectly ok, a change in personal interests towards a 
more ambitious vision is perfectly ok.  But it has an impact on 
the outcome, obviously.


> And why is that so? Is it because of inherent difficulties to 
> marry low-level functionality with high-level concepts? No, 
> it's because language designers are stooooopid [<= irony]

Poor irony too... It is so because:

1. system level programming language design has very little 
academic value

2. it is very difficult to unseat C/C++ which is doing a fair job 
of it

3. because portability is very very important and difficult

4. because high level languages often try to provide solutions to 
specific areas


> contributions to the core language. How could anyone keep track 
> of not to mention act on criticism that is scattered out all 
> over threads.

Oh, you don't have to. I am backing those that are arguing for 
reasonable positions and will do so for as long as I think that 
will move the project to a more interesting position. Please 
don't try to make yourself look like a martyr.


> Or is it an intricate problem that's not trivial to solve?

I very seldom run into memory related issues unless I do pointer 
arithmetic, which @safe does not help with. If it is hard to 
solve, the solution is easy: postpone it until you have something 
on paper that can work...