[OT] Andrei's list of barriers to D adoption

Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Tue Jun 7 07:01:14 PDT 2016

On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 at 09:45:36 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> Jane Street are indeed well-known and well-renowned for their 
> work with OCaml. It works for them but remains a small niche 
> with little traction.

Perhaps, but my point is that there's a company that adopted a 
less-known language without starting out with any grand plan to 
do so, and they clearly have contributed very substantially to 
that language community in terms of money and I would guess code 
(as well as hiring key people from Ocaml community).

> Bloomberg actually do a significant amount of indirect 
> give-back for C++ and a little for Java: they do a lot of 
> sponsoring of C++ events and have staff on standards 
> committees. We at ACCUConf like Bloomberg.
> I haven't been aware of Scala give-back from Morgan Stanley, I 
> shall hunt it out. The organizations I know using Scala 
> generally stay pretty quiet about it other than they are using 
> it. Ditto for Python.

So perhaps you might agree that just the few examples that 
immediately came to mind demonstrate that it isn't the case 
finance doesn't and wouldn't give back.  I don't know the details 
of MS involvement with Scala (except that they use it), but a 
Scala guy I talked to was concerned that they were having too 
much influence of the development of the language - so I guess 
there must have been some money and code involved.

>> Finance is just one more industry, but it's quite a pragmatic 
>> one and still has a decent share of global IT spending.
> I have made quite a lot of my income over the last 7 years from 
> finance industry, commercial banking and hedge funds, I am not 
> complaining. :-)

Glad to hear.  But maybe in that context one should be thoughtful 
about suggesting entire industries are unpromising targets.  It's 
quite heterogeneous, and hard to speak in broadbush terms.

More information about the Digitalmars-d mailing list