[OT] Andrei's list of barriers to D adoption

[Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d]

On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 at 09:45:36 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> Jane Street are indeed well-known and well-renowned for their 
> work with OCaml. It works for them but remains a small niche 
> with little traction.

Perhaps, but my point is that there's a company that adopted a 
less-known language without starting out with any grand plan to 
do so, and they clearly have contributed very substantially to 
that language community in terms of money and I would guess code 
(as well as hiring key people from Ocaml community).

> Bloomberg actually do a significant amount of indirect 
> give-back for C++ and a little for Java: they do a lot of 
> sponsoring of C++ events and have staff on standards 
> committees. We at ACCUConf like Bloomberg.
>
> I haven't been aware of Scala give-back from Morgan Stanley, I 
> shall hunt it out. The organizations I know using Scala 
> generally stay pretty quiet about it other than they are using 
> it. Ditto for Python.

So perhaps you might agree that just the few examples that 
immediately came to mind demonstrate that it isn't the case 
finance doesn't and wouldn't give back.  I don't know the details 
of MS involvement with Scala (except that they use it), but a 
Scala guy I talked to was concerned that they were having too 
much influence of the development of the language - so I guess 
there must have been some money and code involved.


>> Finance is just one more industry, but it's quite a pragmatic 
>> one and still has a decent share of global IT spending.
>
> I have made quite a lot of my income over the last 7 years from 
> finance industry, commercial banking and hedge funds, I am not 
> complaining. :-)

Glad to hear.  But maybe in that context one should be thoughtful 
about suggesting entire industries are unpromising targets.  It's 
quite heterogeneous, and hard to speak in broadbush terms.