Who maintains the D website?

[Johnson Jones via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 4 August 2017 at 00:52:34 UTC, captaindet wrote:
> On 2017-08-04 12:13, Johnson Jones wrote:
>> No, sorry. The lead team uses nttp which is old school forum 
>> technology.
>> They won't move in to the present and instead insist everyone 
>> else stay
>> in the past with them. It's sort of like those guys that drive 
>> 1970's
>> camaro's because they think it makes them look cool. I'm sure 
>> it's a
>> psychological condition but not much can be done about it.
>
> hold your horses!
>
> quite a number of users incl myself prefer nttp. nice as the 
> forum web interface is, following a newsgroup with a newsgroup 
> reader like eg the thunderbird built-in is way more 
> comfortable, you should try it one day. eg: you don't have to 
> sign in, can reply immediately, you can customize 
> display/behaviour more thoroughly to your liking, and more.
>
> /det

It's not! I've used nntp and it crap. You cannot edit your posts, 
simple as that! You can claim all you want that your method is 
better but it doesn't make it so.  Just based on human nature and 
the fact that you are saying with an ancient archaic system 
suggests it's all based in fear of change. The sad part about 
this is that it forces everyone else to stay in the same broken 
system.

How about this: Dlang.org keeps the old interface like nntp and 
adds a new one. Anyone that wants to continue to use the old one 
can and those that one to use the new one can. In a year we can 
see which one is the most popular and let everyone decide rather 
than a few old crusty goats.

Of course, it won't happen because those in power know the 
outcome. You can see how nntp is dead. There are few nntp servers 
and most of the groups are dead and only those that used in in 
the past still use it. There is not a migration towards nntp but 
away, and that is fact... which suggests that it is not as good 
as its opposition. Hence, if I'm right, and I almost surely 
am(surely you are not going to argue that nntp is becoming more 
popular, are you?) then those that think that nntp is a great 
thing and better than the alternatives have psychological issues 
with change.

You can make a forum that behaves similarly(no login), 
customizable, or whatever else you are saying that you like about 
nntp.

In fact, someone could write a nntp like interface for the forum 
in D just so to please you guys.

I personally have nothing against nntp... while it isn't great it 
does the job EXCEPT editing. I know people claim that editing 
posts causes problems but that is rarely the case and the 
benefits far out weight any negatives.

The reasons not to move forward are the same reasons that plague 
humans in many other areas and it is all 
psychological/evolutionary reasons rather than based on logic and 
facts. Familiarity is a prime factor. Many humans, specially 
older ones, fear change because it is unfamiliar and unknown. 
Those factors are the same that are at play here and it is 
unfortunate because I imagine there would be a lot more younger 
users that have the motivation to help D gain traction that do 
not participate because they feel like it is a step backwards 
rather than forwards.


One day all the old fogies will die and nntp will be gone.. and 
some young kid interested in D will start a modern D forum and 
maybe D will get back on track.

Think of it this way: D claims to be this sort of futuristic 
compiler(it can do thinks "light years" ahead of most other 
compilers...) yet it uses communications methods that are 50 
years old. That's a bit contradictory. It's like a young pretty 
woman who dresses like a skank and wears so much make up that it 
makes her look 20 years older than what she is. While she might 
think she looks good, the people that actually look at her think 
otherwise. This is sorta what happens with D. It's amazing in 
some ways but has so much baggage in so many areas that many 
people are not going to waste their time. The D community can be 
delusional all they want, but it just works against them instead 
of allowing D to really shine.