[OT] Re: Why don't you advertise more your language on Quora etc ?

Rico Decho via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Mon Mar 6 07:40:54 PST 2017


> If this isn't a perfect example of D's marketing problem I 
> don't know what is. Someone who likes D and takes the time to 
> write on the forum yet thinks the GC will randomly run no 
> matter what.
>
> To make it abundantly clear: I'm not bashing on you in the 
> slightest, Rico Decho. I'm just pointing out that there's a 
> clear problem here in that we can't expect to convert e.g. C++ 
> game developers who have never written a line of D before if we 
> haven't even managed to educate the community yet.
>
> Unfortunately, I have no ideas on how to remedy the situation. 
> I also don't know how to get people to stop believing that C is 
> magically fast either, which I think is a similar perception 
> problem.
>
> Atila

Actually it's written in the documentation.

If I remember well the garbage collection could be triggered 
during any allocation, for instance when concatenating some 
displayed text, and freeze all threads until the garbage 
collection is done.

In my opinion, the problem is D's GC implementation.

For instance, Nim uses a soft (realtime) GC, which is why Nim's 
author himself has made the Urho3D wrapper :)

With this approach, no need to disable the GC and make manual 
allocations to avoid that the GC freezes all threads.

Instead you simply use all the standard libraries as normally, 
while still try to avoid allocating too much stuff during the 
rendering of course.

During the render loop, in Nim you occasionally call the GC with 
an numeric argument telling how much milliseconds it is allowed 
to use in the worst case.

For instance, you ask for GC when the game is in a menu or after 
a background resource loading.

That's the simple and clever way of using a garbage collected 
language for game development.



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