[OT] mobile rising

[Joakim]

On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 14:15:47 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
wrote:
> On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 00:09:32 UTC, Joakim wrote:
>> smaller search company, did with Android, leaving aside Apple 
>> because of your silly claims that their existing software gave 
>> them a headstart, which is why those former computing giants 
>> are all either dead or fading fast.
>
> It is hardly a silly claim:
>
> NextStep (1989) ==> OS-X (2001) ==> iOS (2007)
>
> That is 18 years of evolution and experience, and it also meant 
> that they had the development tooling ready + experienced 
> developers for their platform (macOS programmers). It also 
> mattered a lot that Apple already had the manufacturing 
> experience with prior attempts and also the streamlining of the 
> iPod-line as well as the infrastructure for distribution and 
> following up customers (again from the iPod line).
>
> So, for Apple it was a relatively modest step to go from
>
>  iPod + Mac frameworks + standard 3rd party chips + existing 
> tooling + iTunes
>
>  =>
>
> iPhone
>
> I think you are forgetting that hardly anyone wanted to develop 
> apps for Android in the first few years. Android was pariah, 
> and everybody did iOS apps first, then if it was a big success 
> then maybe they would try to port it over to Android (but 
> usually not).

I agree that Apple had an advantage in getting into the 
smartphone market, but MS, RIM, Nokia, etc. had much larger 
advantages in this regard.  And you continue to ignore that 
Android and google started their mobile OS from scratch and now 
ship on the most smartphones.  Of course, they just grabbed 
existing tech like the linux kernel, Java, and various other OSS 
projects and put it all together with code of their own, but 
that's something any of the computing giants and many other 
upstarts like HTC or Asus could have done.

Yet, they didn't, which suggests a lack of vision or some other 
technical ability than "OS expertise."