An idea for commercial support for D

Iain Buclaw ibuclaw at gdcproject.org
Sun Feb 4 10:07:05 UTC 2018


On 2 February 2018 at 11:21, Joakim via Digitalmars-d
<digitalmars-d at puremagic.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 09:26:51 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
>>
>> On 31 January 2018 at 09:43, Joakim via Digitalmars-d
>> <digitalmars-d at puremagic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm sure you can find much better D devs to contribute such work by
>>> posting bounties on the D or ldc bountysource pages:
>>>
>>> https://www.bountysource.com/teams/d
>>> https://www.bountysource.com/teams/ldc-developers
>>>
>>
>> I was surprised to see a gdc bounty page.  I was even more surprised that
>> the one notable bounty is an issue that's either blocked by Walter, or
>> waiting on someone to implement array op templates in druntume/object.d. :-)
>
>
> Heh, the lead gdc dev doesn't know that gdc bounties exist, not sure I could
> have made my case for their being hidden any better. :)
>
> On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 09:30:08 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
>>
>> I'm reminded of airlines who have a "Priority" or "Privileged" queuing
>> system at the gate.  If you didn't want to wait in line to board, then you
>> should have paid up.
>>
>> Not sure if any parallels ring with you here. :-)
>
>
> Any system that requires payment can be superficially compared to any other,
> but the real salient point here is the discrepancy: to even get on the
> flight, you have to pay for a ticket, whereas he paid nothing for the
> open-source sections of a mixed codebase.  So, he's more like a guy who
> shows up at the gate without a ticket _and_ barges into the Priority queue,
> which is a sure way to get thrown out of the airport altogether. :D
>

The up-front cost to get yourself on the plane is irrelevant, you
could even think of it as a baseline cost that everyone pays to get
themselves there (OSS software has a cost, even though package is
free, someone's got to spend time on your money building/setting it
up).

Maybe it's just the British culture that I have firmly ingrained
inside. Ranting about queuing just comes more naturally, as its what
we do best. To undermine the queuing system is to undermine the
national way of life. :-)

Granted, there's not many great things that can be said about a
first-come, first-serve system - and in OSS projects, the meritocratic
communities do give sense to that we operate in such a fashion when it
comes to ownership of the code base, or fixing long-standing issues.
i.e: I arrived first as a contributor, therefore my opinion against
outranks your opinion for (this is a irrationally negative example,
however).


> And I have no problem with priority queues, baggage fees, etc., as the
> reason they charge for those is to _lower_ the ticket price for the cheapest
> consumer, a concept called price discrimination (and before I get the usual
> nonsense about how that's illegal, or it should be, it isn't and it
> shouldn't):
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_discrimination
>
> So I pay less for my cheap flights, while others who want to lug a ton of
> suitcases or get through the line faster pay more, which is only fair.
>

Fair enough. Me, I am frankly more disturbed by a money-talks culture
that gives preferential treatment to the highest bidder over the hoi
polloi. :-)


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