The State of the GUI

[Adam Wilson]

On 10/27/18 6:06 PM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
> On 10/25/18 4:04 AM, Adam Wilson wrote:
>> On 10/24/18 7:44 PM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
>>> On 10/24/18 9:39 PM, Adam Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The following is my credentials in the UX space. I took a UX design 
>>>> class from Billy Hollis, a well known (in the Microsoft space) UX 
>>>> designer.
>>>
>>> Well there's your problem. It's been a long time since MS was known 
>>> for UIs that *aren't* a complete clusterf*ck, so it's difficult to 
>>> assume anything they're relying on is necessarily reputable.
>>>
>>> Besides, "I took a class" hardly counts as credentials.
>>
>> He doesn't work for MSFT, he just works with their tools because they 
>> offer the best (by his standards) ecosystem that isn't HTML.
> 
> I wasn't implying he did. You implied that he's well-appreciated in MS 
> circles. I'm saying that doesn't necessarily mean a whole heck of a lot.
> 
>> Ok, what you got? I took a class is much better than "I don't like 
>> what you said so you're wrong."
> 
> "I took a class" isn't anything at all. It's negligable, near-zero. Both 
> of us have real-world experience that absolutely dwarfs "I took a class".
> 
> And, no, I'm *not* saying "You're wrong *because* the credentials are 
> meaningless." I'm saying "You're wrong, *and* meaningless credentials 
> are meaningless."

I'll admit it's not a great argument. As I mentioned elsewhere in the 
thread I've been paid to do UI design for years. And classes do count as 
formal training. My only purpose was to establish that I have some idea 
of what we're talking about here.

You haven't offered anything beyond "your wrong". That's great, but it's 
also just an opinion. Tell me how I am wrong. So far the sum total has 
been "MSFT makes crap UI's so anybody associated with MSFT UI's is 
automatically bad at UI." I have nothing further to say until you offer 
up some constructive criticism.

-- 
Adam Wilson
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