does D already have too many language features ?
bauss
jj_1337 at live.dk
Mon Apr 8 23:04:37 UTC 2019
On Monday, 8 April 2019 at 22:49:10 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
> On Monday, 8 April 2019 at 18:59:25 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote:
>> On Monday, 8 April 2019 at 18:45:24 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
>>>
>>> I think some people have discussed on the forums before about
>>> how AST macros could be used to implement this (after all,
>>> C++'s metaclass proposal could probably also be implemented
>>> with AST macros). However, even if AST macros might be used
>>> to implement OOP as a library, I think the burden of proof is
>>> on those in favor of library solutions to show that they can
>>> get similar performance, both run-time and compile-time, and
>>> quality of error messages as the current implementation.
>>>
>>> Another option would be to keep classes, but implement other
>>> OOP features like interface
>>> and abstract as libraries, with AST macros if needed. Perhaps
>>> less disruption.
>>
>> The problem with AST macros, and Walter seems to agree with
>> this POV, is that every medium to large project will have its
>> own private language that ripples throughout the code. Only a
>> few of the developers will really understand this new language
>> and how it can safely be used and where its pitfalls are. It
>> will be poorly documented and a nightmare for new developers.
>
> That's a valid criticism. It's also odd coming from a language
> like D where "good code" is generic on steroids and extremely
> hard to work with. I've been using D for six years and still
> struggle to use Phobos at times.
And ironically nothing is stopping one from creating a language
within D anyway.
You can basically just create a parser for your language and then
omit D code into a mixin.
Now that would be nasty and way worse than a custom language
using AST macros; and that's possible using D now.
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