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On Thursday, 8 August 2019 at 00:16:22 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 8/7/2019 4:33 AM, Paulo Pinto wrote:
>>> Not only that, Zortech C++ is the reason C++ itself reached 
>>> the tipping point and became mainstream.
>> Sorry to say it like this, but Zortech wasn't relevant in 
>> Europe, if at all.
>> 
>> I got introduced to C++ via Turbo C++ 1.0 and it was all 
>> Borland, Microsoft and Metrowerks from there on.
>
> That came years afterwards. The success of Zortech C++ 
> motivated Borland to drop their project of adding OOP 
> extensions to C and go with C++. (I know the people involved.) 
> The success of Borland C++ motivated Microsoft similarly (I 
> heard at the time that MS was also developing their own OOP C 
> language, but was never able to get confirmation).
>
> But there is little doubt the sharp upward tilt of C++ happened 
> with the introduction of Zortech C++. ZTC++ was on DOS, where 
> 90% of the programming at the time happened.
>
> Before ZTC++, C++ was a curiosity on unix platforms that was 
> battling neck-and-neck with Objective C. (The comp.lang.c++ and 
> comp.lang.objectivec newsgroups had about the same traffic 
> volume.) After ZTC++ appeared, C++ boomed and ObjC tanked (and 
> was rescued from oblivion by Apple).

See "data" means showing the actual statistics when you say "then 
ZTC++ appeared then C++ boomed", this means nothing without the 
data to back it up. It means even less when coming from someone 
with a clear bias.