Re: Feedback on Átila's Vision for D

drug drug2004 at bk.ru
Sat Oct 19 11:52:18 UTC 2019


On 10/19/19 2:21 PM, Chris wrote:
> I'm sincerely wondering why the D community avoids doing the obvious and 
> keeps wondering why adoption rates are still low, after 20 years. As I 
> remember it was all about 1. ranges, 2. templates, 3. functional 
> programming and 4. memory safety, nice, but basics were / and are still 
> being neglected. I understand that many users might not care because 
> e.g. they don't use IDEs or don't develop for mobile, but when people 
> keep raising these issues and other new languages immediately work on 
> ARM and IDE plugins, still nobody here sees the big pink elephant in the 
> room. And it's not "scarce" resources, it's that nobody seems to care. 
> If you think about the amount of time people spend discussing a 
> syntactic detail in template declarations and stuff like that, and then 
> people tell me there aren't enough resources, c'mon. The truth is that 
> the community enjoys bikeshedding but ignores the basics. Maybe my 
> conversation is non-technical in the sense that I don't bikeshed about 
> template syntax, but stability, automagicaltooling and support for 
> mobile are still technical issues. If you don't sort those out, D will 
> remain a niche language. It's a nobrainer, really, I don't understand 
> this obstinate resistance to the obvious.

could you kindly let us to decide what we need and what we want? 
Considering that you have left the D community I hope letting us go does 
not hurt you somehow.


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