Nim programming language finally hit 1.0

Laeeth Isharc laeeth at
Sun Sep 29 03:53:57 UTC 2019

On Friday, 27 September 2019 at 12:47:44 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
> On Friday, 27 September 2019 at 10:45:31 UTC, Chris wrote:
>> [snip]
>> D has become too intellectual, i.e. playing with ideas and 
>> abstract concepts have become more important than the real 
>> world. And the problem is that this playing around with ideas 
>> has negatively affected the use of D in the real world. Once 
>> the D community gets over that, D might have a convincing 
>> "story" (it did when I first started to use it, in ~2010 I 
>> think).
> I came to D from scripting languages like Matlab, Python, and 
> R. It got to the point where my code was taking 24 hours + to 
> run and I tried to find alternatives that were faster. I tried 
> C++, but didn't like it very much. I prefer D to C++, but I'm 
> still far more productive in Matlab/Python/R because I can 
> depend on other people's libraries to a greater extent. 
> However, D has made some good progress on the library front in 
> the past two years. Mir has really come into its own with its 
> own little universe around it (lubeck and numir are fun) and 
> the GSOC project Magpie for Data Frames already looks 
> promising. I would contrast this progress on the library front 
> with the intellectual issues you are describing on the language 
> itself. For me, the biggest downside with D was a lack of 
> libraries. As you mentioned above, modules depending on 
> modules. The network effect is very important for these types 
> of use cases. So I do see progress on this front, even if there 
> is a lot of unhappy feelings about some language issues.

I haven't done much with it yet but I hooked up your embedr to 
our scripting language written in D and it works for examples 
with very little effort.  I was planning to do same for Julia so 
we can steal their libraries too.  So currently you can write 
inline D and R in SIL.  Python isn't far off working and C++ and 
C# one can do a hello world but not much more (using cling and 
mono). I think using cling one could maybe expose quite a lot of 
C++ libraries to D if you don't insist on zero overhead.

What were the practical limitations you encountered with using R 
libraries from D via embedr?

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