Is it time for D 3.0?

[Konstantin]

On Monday, 13 April 2020 at 08:47:23 UTC, Kaitlyn Emmons wrote:
> On Monday, 13 April 2020 at 08:01:49 UTC, Mathias LANG wrote:
>> This is so out of touch with the reality of software 
>> development it sounds almost like a troll.
>
> I been following this community for like 6 years now and i 
> remember when i joined people were asking for D3.. the troll is 
> the fact people still discussing it and nothing has been done

I'm c++ programmer and not familiar with Dlang enough. I only 
observed language features
and time over time read forum discussions about dlang past and 
future.

I will try to summarize many different opinions about D.

Marketing and purpose.

Some people wrote posts about problems "to sell" D to programmers 
like modern languages(Rust, Go, Java). It's not clear which 
niches Dlang was designed to cover.

It can't be used for high frequency trading or other niches where 
performance is matter, because has dependency on GC in language 
structure and infrastructure (classes).
Bad support for non-gc methods in standard library. But there are 
cool features for template metaprogramming, mixins, good compile 
time evaluation support. Cool reflection is also big thing(c++ 
just on the road, but D has support reflection much earlier).

On the other hand there are many general purpose languages with 
GC(Java, C# etc). And why programmers should take D instead? Yes, 
there are no corporations like Oracle, Microsoft behind D and 
small community. Oldstyle "stop the world" GC does not add 
popularity to Dlang.

I also saw some programmers use D as scripting language or 
language for prototypes because you can program, compile fast and 
good syntax, infrastructure(packet manager, build system) are 
helpful.

In fact dlang is old, but still unpopular.

Approaches and leadership.

There are many memory management features like refcounting, gc, 
owner/borrow semantic from Rust in D. However these features are 
not integrated in language, libraries. May be choose one and 
design, implement, test it to be ready? Because community is 
small and everyone do what interested in and try to move lang in 
different ways. I see that like a "box of unfinished projects".

Were there any discussions about dlang fork?

On my opinion Dlang has features to be popular system and 
scripting language. It needs not many cool unfinished things, but 
well implemented. And lang needs development plan with priorities.

P.S.
Sorry for my bad english.
I wrote all this because i'm tired to write simple things hard 
way in c++, but does not see any good alternatives.
And as i know initial purpose on Dlang development was 
re-engineering of c++.