Please be more careful when changing the language behavior

Atwork fwafwa at fwfafa.com
Wed Jun 3 07:52:46 UTC 2020


On Wednesday, 3 June 2020 at 04:21:08 UTC, mw wrote:
> On Wednesday, 3 June 2020 at 02:25:23 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>> On 6/1/2020 11:53 PM, mw wrote:
>>> If you seriously want to fix the multiple inheritance 
>>> problem: freeze D2 prod, and make D3 dev, I also mean it 
>>> seriously.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, well, even more breakage :-/
>
> The difference is: for a new *major* version release, breakage 
> are more acceptable and tolerable by the users. Python 3  
> doesn’t have backward compatibility with Python 2, and there’s 
> even a tool called ‘2to3’ coming with Python 3 to help people 
> migrate. It’s a hard decision, but in the long run, it helps 
> Python to be a more consistent language.
>
> With minor version release, it’s difficult to get things fixed, 
> both for you and for the language users. Just as both parties 
> have expressed in this very thread.
>
> In my view, D2 has already been feature rich enough for people 
> to do their work. What they want most is compiler stability, 
> not any more new language features. By freezing D2, they will 
> have a more stable platform to get their work done without 
> worrying about breakage. And for you, it will buy you more 
> time, e.g. a few years, to design carefully the next major 
> features / fixes you want introduce in D3.
>
>
> Currently,
> https://dlang.org/changelog/release-schedule.html
>
> — New release are published every two months, on the first day 
> of every uneven month.
> — Two weeks before a new release master is merged into stable 
> and a first beta is released.
>
> I think this release schedule is too frequent for a mature v2 
> language, it’s not application software, but language compiler!
>
>
> No wonder kinke said:
>
>> Master is waaay too unstable IMHO. I definitely wouldn't use 
>> it for projects of mine, regardless how small.
>
>
> I hope you can think about this D2 / D3 suggestion.

Completely agree with your statements.

I am often about a year behind with compilers just so I can avoid 
being bit by breakage.


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