Why Phobos is cool

[aberba]

On Monday, 29 June 2020 at 07:04:30 UTC, aeldemery wrote:
> On Monday, 29 June 2020 at 04:49:39 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>> On 6/28/2020 9:13 AM, Avrina wrote:
>>> I guess you are a bit spoiled
>> Please post with professional demeanor.
>
> Hello all,
>
> I wanted to say this kind of destructive conversations is 
> hurting the reputation of the language, deepen the feeling that 
> the language is unsuccessful and turning newcomers off.
I personally avoid insults. And its quite unfortunate some people 
choose those kind of words.

In some cultures certain words might not sound that offensive 
though. But since we're dealing with an internal community and 
words don't reflect actual emotions, its best to be careful about 
choice of words.

>The
> people behind this wonderful project deserve some gratitude and 
> recognition.

That MOST of us do. Not everyone it might seem air it out more 
though. But you know, its a common thing that people usually talk 
without being asked when they are rather troubled within 
something. Doesn't always work the same for when they're good. 
But that's not a good thing for a community.

Does the complaints make D unsuccessful? No. (Well it might sound 
unsuccessful to newcomers...but that's just so for every language 
people actually use, its why say Apple keep releasing new product 
updates).

The language itself is solid. I may be biased but better than any 
system programming language I've ever tried. An that's a 
problem...cus it doesn't deliver it quite complete... ecosystem 
wise (in my perspective).

And that's it, its normal to hear people air the views on those 
issues. And these views are diverse...tools, GC, @safe, Minimal 
runtime, generic, compiler, etc. Different pain points. Could be 
more considering majority (I guess) of D users rare write a 
single word here. I doesn't mean they're not bothered by certain 
things they'd like to be addressed.

You know, I'd rather think the DLF takes these views as community 
feedback.

Side note: code-d plugin for VS code is so good I wonder why its 
not been covered on say the D blog or website preferably.

And that's what I'm afraid will lead many people to feel D 
doesn't have a great code editor support (the maintainer is doing 
amazing job, you'd just have to try it yourself). Same as Visual 
Studio itself. But you don't hear about them, and that's a 
problem.

Of course some seasoned D devs already know this, but what about 
newcomers? Will this not drive them away? And that's just about 
VS code. There's many other efforts like it.


Who will do this? A community manager primarily of course. 
Initially its the LEADER/DLF. Community == contributors with 
diverse contributions.