An example of why I hate the web

H. S. Teoh hsteoh at quickfur.ath.cx
Tue Mar 3 18:30:44 UTC 2020


On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 06:14:27PM +0000, matheus via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 17:34:37 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 01:19:44PM +0000, matheus via Digitalmars-d
> > wrote: [...]
> > > It's the same with Microsoft, they're screwing the e-mail.
> > [...]
> > > It's just a shame.
> > [...]
> > 
> > Just use Mutt[1]. :-D
> > 
> > [1] http://www.mutt.org/
> 
> But how the e-mail client will solve the problem in the e-mail
> server/service? Because the retention happens in the server, the
> client can't do nothing or can?
[...]

Ohhh, your server is Outlook?  Well, then, you're screwed. :-P  If you
have the choice, use a different mail server instead. :-P

Currently I run my own mailserver, and I configured it to deliver
directly to my PC, and Mutt accesses the local mailbox directly. Once I
delete something, it's GONE.  For good.  I have full control over what
happens to my mail, and I get to decide what I do with it, where it
goes, and how it's stored.

This modern idiom of the server retaining all messages your behalf is
IMNSHO a b0rken model.  It takes control out of users' hands into the
mail admin's hands. It's the same thing with trend everywhere else, like
web apps taking control of your data out of your hands into the app
writer's server, and cloud services taking control of your data *and*
your applications out of your hands into *theirs*.  It's convenient, no
doubt, and in many scenarios more economical.  But there is a
fundamentally b0rken principle here, that you no longer own anything,
not your data, not your programs, your provider controls everything. You
no longer *own* anything, you're merely a "subscriber" and the service
provider controls everything.  Just the way large corporations like it.
Rather than empowering the user, they empower themselves.  And at last,
the threat of users taking control of their own property is neutralized,
and the big corporations can continue to hold you in their thrall.

But hey, this is the hot bandwagon and everyone's jumping on it, so why
aren't you following the rest of the herd?  And so, this b0rken design
perpetuates itself.


T

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