D mentioned on Rust discussions site

Chris wendlec at tcd.ie
Sat May 23 14:33:02 UTC 2020


On Saturday, 23 May 2020 at 02:59:18 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 5/22/2020 8:27 AM, Chris wrote:
>> Second, Walter, I've noticed that the word "unprofessional" 
>> has become a blanket term for anything the D leadership 
>> doesn't like / want to hear. In my opinion, D has become a 
>> political enterprise.
>
> Belittling other members and/or impugning their motives, is 
> unprofessional behavior. It's not hard to understand.

It'd help if the moderator also explained why a post was deleted 
(instead of using a blanket term like "unprofessional" which is 
in itself unprofessional), else it looks quite random. I think 
Joakim left over what he perceived as double standards in forum 
moderation. (Was it really worth to lose a contributor like 
Joakim over this?) In the old days there was practically no 
moderation and D wasn't the worse for it. I wonder what changed 
that made the leadership adopt a stricter stance on moderation. 
It doesn't reflect well on the D Foundation when comments by 
certain people (like myself) are scrutinized and deleted while 
some outright rude comments, attacks and even false accusations 
are not.

May I remind you that it was the leadership that started to treat 
users in a rude manner. You, Walter, answered evasively and went 
on to twist my words so I looked like an unreasonable fool. (One 
user noticed this and pointed it out to you.) This gave me the 
impression that you were looking down your nose at us. It hasn't 
escaped my attention either how Manu has been treated here 
(DIPs). Maybe you should ponder on this a little.

Last but not least, I think there's a growing feeling in the 
community that D should be rewritten as D3. Steven Schveighofer 
wrote a post about it. I don't understand why on earth D is not 
rewritten in a clean and sound manner. Take what really works, 
the great features that D undoubtedly has, get rid of half-baked 
features and all the baggage like audodecoding etc. Implement a 
proper ecosystem right from the start (this is of utmost 
importance). Why not make D great again?

Deleting criticism is certainly not the right approach and will 
come back to bite you. Sometimes it's easier to just do the 
dishes than to come up with ever new excuses why you can't do the 
dishes. Why not write a new clean version of D?




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