Future of D 2.x as stable/bug fix, and what's next for D 3.x

Ola Fosheim Grøstad ola.fosheim.grostad at gmail.com
Sat Sep 5 05:48:11 UTC 2020

On Friday, 4 September 2020 at 21:51:18 UTC, IGotD- wrote:
> programming and that's where C++ has its niche. All the new 
> features of C++ don't really target low level programming but 
> tries to become a language it is not and that is a high level 
> big hauling language (it actually was in the 80-90s).

Some are low level, like aligned allocators, SIMD, punning...

> others territory and C++ has no chance there. C++ in this realm 
> is very unusual unless you have strict performance and/or 
> resource footprint requirements but more often people use the 
> big haulers like Java because of convenience.

Yes, unfortunally, memory can still be precious in cloud 
settings. But it is a matter of pricing vs convinience.

> D already support manual memory management and you can mix how 
> much you want. The question is how the standard libraries 
> should written and used. I'd say leave them as it is and people 
> who want manual memory management are free to do that but then 
> you have create your own libraries (mainly because nobody will 
> port druntme/phobos to non-GC).

Then you will end up with a Phobos/Tango situation. Keep in mind 
that GC apps benefit from nogc libaries as you will get fewer 
collection cycles and less memory waste.

> We'll see if you are right when it comes to C++23 and so on. I 
> believe that C++ will not increase its popularity because of 
> new features.

C++ is one of the few languages where we can see increased 
enthusiasm in terms of awarded stars on github. So there is 
increasing developer enthusiasm, but probably less so with 

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