Tasks, actors and garbage collection

[russhy]

>Well, it would be 0ms, if it runs when the task is idle. If the 
>task is short lived then it would be like an arena-allocator 
>(faster than malloc).

Then just use an arena allocator, why everyone wants to make 
things complicated for everyone, and as a default

It's just like the Thread, or even Fibers, can't even be used 
without the GC, that is a very very very poor and short sighted 
mindset

>The people who were unhappy with D having a GC has probably left 
>for Rust at this point. So it seems like the majority wants to 
>have a GC.

Reason why language stagnates, noone left to take it to the next 
level

Worse, the ones who stayed are taking D to the wrong direction by 
focusing on the GC

>If it keeps moving at this pace then it will never happen... and 
>the language semantics for borrowing isn't there.

Argument that i share, we need the foundation people and 
walter/atila etc to show up in these discussions, but they never 
do, so no interesting debates happen, reason why language 
stagnates

>Yes, if it had happened 4 years ago, but it is kinda too late. 
>If there had been traction in the community for making 
>everything RC then things wouldn't move so slowly with memory 
>management as it does now. Borrowing won't happen either, for it 
>to happen there should've been a gamma-release by now. It will 
>take years to get it to work properly after the first 
>gamma-release.


That is a very short term mindset, another reason why language 
stagnates, lack of vision and lack of proper discussion to make 
pragmatic and future proof changes/deprecations/decisions

Whenever that discussion happen, it's always "it's too late", 
"it'll never happen", "it's the way it is", "just embrace the 
bad, stagnating, non-scalable GC"

The main issue is the lack of will and courage from the team to 
ackowledge the poor state of the GC and they play hide&seek when 
it comes to discussing/debating about it