Tasks, actors and garbage collection

[evilrat]

On Monday, 26 April 2021 at 06:35:25 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
> On Sunday, 25 April 2021 at 19:41:39 UTC, russhy wrote:
>>> We already have zig and rust, adding yet another fancy slick 
>>> no GC landuage is dead end.
>>
>>
>> Same defeatist mentality i keep reading here, this is not what 
>> D need
>>
>>> So please stop your no-GC whine. People already heard you, 
>>> more than once too.
>>
>> I will never stop fighting for D from the people who wants to 
>> ruin it with more GC
>
> D is open source, you are free to take care of your special 
> flavoured D.

There is already Volt language, and Odin and Zig languages which 
is very D inspired and "simple" compared to D, there is a lot to 
choose from.
But Take GC from D and you get C2 language (guess where it is 
now? oh I've heard they given up and started C3 language which is 
even better than C2, fantastic!), and there was even more 
"simple" C-- (C minus minus) language, but can you guess where it 
is now?
Or maybe he want to repeat Python 2 vs 3 story? That was almost 
killed entire language. D just can't afford switching direction 
amid its course. But what if this really necessary? Ok, why not, 
just put it under a new name. But don't touch the original.

That guy teaches us about how bad GC is and provides nonsensical 
examples of how brave developers avoid GC by all means because of 
just how evil it is, meanwhile Unity have been working just fine 
on mobile for 10+ years, and UE4 works just fine (CPU performance 
wise) on average 4 years old smartphone.

I also like how he hijacked the thread and expects answers from 
Walter and Andrey who never showed up in the thread. He demands 
from them make something because he wanted it.
That's definitely not going to work.

If he is so serious about reducing GC dependency he could 
probably start patching phobos with no-GC functionality to be on 
par, that would be at least useful, but in the long run it will 
just add clutter, technical debt and bloat(omg!).
To make phobos usable with @nogc it would need some serious 
rethinking, research and planning. It is not just "remove GC" and 
done, this will require adding monads and stuff, pattern 
matching, and more. The result will probably end up look like 
Rust too.