[OT] What are D's values?

russhy russhy at gmail.com
Sat Oct 9 20:56:23 UTC 2021

On Saturday, 9 October 2021 at 07:13:38 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
> On Saturday, 9 October 2021 at 00:23:00 UTC, russhy wrote:
>> Why do you guys compare D to C#, if there is one language you 
>> should compare D is with
>>  (actually 3) Go/Rust/Zig
>> C# appeals to Java people, it's not a native system language, 
>> it compiles to IL and requires a massive runtime
>> The more you look at C#, the faster you'll miss the biggest 
>> agendas of tomorrow, C# just like Java are slowing meeting 
>> with the graveyard of old and irrelevant tech
> So much disinformation.
> Here the native code compilers for C#.
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/dotnet-native/
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/framework/tools/ngen-exe-native-image-generator
> https://github.com/dotnet/designs/blob/main/accepted/2020/form-factors.md#native-aot-form-factors
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/xamarin/mac/internals/aot
> https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/IL2CPP.html
> Running on production embedded hardware,
> https://www.wildernesslabs.co
> Apparently the majority of the games running in that Nintendo 
> toy, that has broken all sale records, happen to use Unity in 
> about 30% of their titles.
> https://www.kelltontech.com/kellton-tech-blog/reasons-develop-nintendo-switch-games-in-unity-game-engine
> Another graveyard irrelevant technology that besides Nintendo, 
> is the tier 1 for Sony, Google and Microsoft gaming systems and 
> AR/VR platforms, alongside Unreal.
> Looks pretty much alive to me.
> D also compiles to LDC bitcode and GCC gimple, and has a 
> runtime.
> Should we also consider it not a systems language then?
> Don't let the hatred and lack of knowledge for other stacks 
> cloud your judgement.
> It steers people away from D when false statements are being 
> done about the ecosystems they know quite well, turning on 
> their defences and thus stop listening on what D is actually 
> supposed to be better on.

vibe-d and hunt helped compete with asp.net and spring, it's a 
known fact, the GC helps D web servers handle terabytes of heap 
memory and millions of transactions per seconds, also a known 

it also helped compete with the simplicity of go net/http, a very 
known fact, obviously

you are looking at the past, when you want to be relevant 
tomorrow, you look forward

comparing to C# with what strengths?

there is not JIT and no low latency GC, you'll be forever a worst 
version of C# if you keep that argument

and anyways, comparing with other languages is a little bit 

what are out strenghts, and what problems can we solve?

i make a game with D, what are  you guys doing with D?

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