Nim Nuggets: Nim talk at Strange Loop 2021
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Sun Oct 17 14:16:51 UTC 2021
On Sunday, 17 October 2021 at 11:04:26 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
> On Sunday, 17 October 2021 at 08:15:26 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>> On 10/16/2021 11:05 PM, Paulo Pinto wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 17 October 2021 at 04:17:38 UTC, jfondren wrote:
>>>> About 50% of it is inadvertent praise for D. The rest is ARC
>>>> and C++ interop.
>>> If you mean compile time evaluation, D wasn't the first with
>>> such features and it is quite far from what Common Lisp is
>>> capable of.
>> Lisp is fundamentally different. It started out as an
>> interpreter and later added native code generation. There
>> never really was a difference between compile time and runtime
>> for Lisp.
>> Nobody even thought of compile time function evaluation for C
>> and C++ until D did it.
>> As evidence, when people discovered that C++ templates could
>> be used to evaluate things at compile time, everyone was
>> completely agog over it. I never heard *anyone* suggest that
>> maybe ordinary functions could do this, too.
>> Now everyone does it. Even C is considering adding it.
> Maybe you should have read more SIGPLAN papers then, there are
> several examples of those capabilities.
> Always screaming D did it before C and C++ is not going to
> increase D's userbase, specially since they get the feature
> without leaving their ecosystem.
> Maybe instead of complaining about who did it first, the
> community should focus on fixing all lose ends.
you are the one that started with:
"X did it first"
then you complain when people correct you, and then you say it's
useless to focus on "who did it first"
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