Worst ideas/features in programming languages?

ClapTrap clap at trap.com
Tue Oct 26 01:06:31 UTC 2021


On Monday, 25 October 2021 at 22:24:40 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
wrote:
>
> Why personal attacks? If you read old math writings you will 
> see that they did actually write out math with plain words.

I dont think it is a personal attack to say you dont seem to 
grasp something.


>> Programming languages are not even in the same race.
>
> Exactly, they are extended at a far higher pace. 347000 Java 
> repos in the past 2 months. How many new "words" do you think 
> that is?

If everything written in Java is extending the language, then 
everything written in English is extending that too. So which is 
growing faster now?


>> I am constantly having to ask my kids (18 & 22) and their 
>> friends what some word or phrase means, (and sometimes I wish 
>> I hadn't asked.)
>
> Right, and it is a challenge to stay up to date with the 
> constant stream of new versions of programming frameworks.

Or keep up with every book / article / blog post written?


>> Do programmers really think to themselves "I'm not using 
>> Pascal because i'll look like a douchebag writing my boolean 
>> expressions that way"?
>
> Oh, I think many would shy away from Pascal, Fortran, Ada and 
> other languages that are "old" or "grey beard" without knowing 
> anything about the languages at all!! There is a clear 
> Fashionista element to both programming languages and 
> programming frameworks. Which ties into identity and "being 
> current".

I worked with Delphi for about 10 years, i know plenty about it, 
it was very productive but I wasn't keen on the overly wordy 
syntax. Fast compile times, strings that just worked, and an 
amazing IDE were probably the highlights.


> Just like there are young wanna-become-programmers that start 
> out with C++ (which is a particularly bad choice) because it is 
> used in AAA-games and they identify themselves as soon to 
> become kickass game-programmers (because that is where their 
> heros/passion are).

You seem to have a bit of a thing about people who are trying to 
be cool and fashionable.



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