How can one reliably run unittests

[jfondren]

On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 22:53:50 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
> On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 17:12:50 UTC, jfondren wrote:
>> -main wasn't and still isn't a problem for the use case the PR 
>> was authored for, of "I want to run all my unit tests, 
>> *only*", and the approach of the PR approach was completely 
>> successful at making druntime much more friendly to that use 
>> case. It had zero impact on your use case, but you didn't sell 
>> it very well by only mentioning what for other uses was a very 
>> trivial inconvenience.
>
> [something deadalnix typed a while ago and has been waiting to 
> post]

The blindness you have to precisely how people intend to use 
features, "use case blindness", has resulted in a lot of trouble 
for you:

1. you earn pointless animosity by describing existing features, 
which other people use all the time in comfort, as entirely 
broken and obviously badly designed.

2. you keep derailing your own thread about your own use case, 
because you don't think it's important to keep the focus on 
*your* use case.

3. even when you talk about problems that directly relate to 
pretty severe inconveniences for your use case, you're unable to 
interest other people in them, because you don't think to connect 
the problems to a use case where they *are* severe inconveniences.

You keep appealing to experiences that are actually personal to 
you and not generally felt. I've mostly enjoyed this thread and 
appreciate that you made it; I dug a lot into unit tests in D as 
a result of following it. The author of the PR that you think has 
helped 'lead to this mess' has said he's happy fine with the 
state of D unit testing. Just like other people are not all 
constantly slapping their foreheads over how irritating -main is 
to use, and just like the other participants of that PR didn't 
think "it doesn't fix -main" was a showstopper for that PR, other 
people also do not all think that "General has a 80 post thread 
about unit tests" is an argument in itself than unit tests have a 
problem.

I think a still likely outcome is that a general interest in 
unittests will result in a lot of improvements, but only to other 
people's use cases. If that's the case in a few months, give 
Discord a try.