D is our last hope

[Martyn]

On Monday, 11 December 2023 at 18:39:22 UTC, IGotD- wrote:
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> Future games will have GC whenever you like it or not. Games 
> are becoming more and more complex the benefit of having GC is 
> obvious.

It is a misconception that having no Garbage Collector is bad or 
dangerous or silly. It is also misleading that (games programming 
specifically) will "benefit using a Garbage Collector as games 
get more complex."

Game programmers NEED CONTROL OF MEMORY. The only time I can see 
this ever changing is if hardware evolves at a faster rate than 
software. The reality is the opposite. game programmers have to 
squeeze every inch out of the hardware. Of course, I am referring 
to the AAA titles.

If you are making a 2D platformer, you could probably write it in 
Unity (and do a fairly poor job) and it will still run at 60fps 
on your PC. Of course, we are not talking about those games.

Performance is key and they are writing their own memory system. 
They also write it to suit the type of game they are making. They 
won't just use the default GC that comes bundled with a 
programming language.

Also, if there ever is going to be a C++ replacement in the 
gaming industry, I think Odin or Jai are going to win. They are 
not "GC languages"


On Monday, 11 December 2023 at 17:54:52 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote:
> On Friday, 8 December 2023 at 13:29:54 UTC, IGotD- wrote:
>> On Thursday, 7 December 2023 at 19:21:10 UTC, Paulo Pinto 
>> wrote:
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>>> Unreal is also full of OOP, and Unreal C++ alongside 
>>> Blueprints uses a GC.
>>>
>>> Their business is doing quite well.
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>> ..
>> Computer games and GC is really a good match
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> No, this is misinformation
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> Contact any game studio and tell me how they feel about the GC 
> in Unreal/Unity
>
> Tell me why do they have to work around it, specially on mobile 
> and consoles
>
> This is why game devs don't take D seriously, there is too much 
> non-serious people pushing bad takes like this


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