D is our last hope

[Dukc]

On Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 14:09:35 UTC, GrimMaple wrote:
> When someone says "My phone's battery is dead", do you reply to 
> them "you are exaggerating, it still has 1% left, it's only 
> dead when it's 0%"?

The difference is that this forum is full of language 
enthusiasts. Criticising the language here, whether for sound 
reasons or not, is always more or less difficult to read. This 
doesn't mean we have to pretend there aren't problems when there 
are, but it does mean that dramatising the issues beyond what 
they actually are stris people for no benefit for anyone.

> So, I will reiterate: what would it take you to admit that D is 
> more dead than alive and that something must be done about it?

Why would I do that? It's clear that the leadership is, in 
general, trying. Granted, Walter is stubborn about some issues 
and in most of them I tend to agree with "the crowd", which I 
maybe could bring up a bit more often. But in general, what would 
me complaining that "D is failing" without any concrete 
improvement ideas gain? I think they're already aware of D's 
position in, say, the TIOBE index, and more than enough people 
are reminding them about that already.

Or are you referring to my earlier comment that D should stay 
both a systems and an application programming language? That much 
opinion I do have that if we're to try something random to the 
language because nothing else is working, we shouldn't start by 
killing our existing unique selling points.

I think you might just feel that we don't believe you're having 
real problems. I do believe that, and even that say C# can well 
work better for you than D. Because we do like the language, and 
are just people, it's true that we're reluctant to admit even the 
actual problems, and that can come out as unsymphatetic towards 
those who bring those up. But making lots of angry noises about 
the issue only makes the situation worse.