The forked elephant in the room

[Paolo Invernizzi]

On Wednesday, 17 January 2024 at 16:13:27 UTC, Richard (Rikki) 
Andrew Cattermole wrote:
> On 18/01/2024 5:02 AM, Atila Neves wrote:
>>     The simple fact is, D needs people like Adam Ruppe and 
>> Sebastian
>>     Wilzbach more than those people need D. D's leadership 
>> cannot afford
>>     to insult and disrespect its contributors until they run 
>> out of
>>     patience and leave for greener pastures. And D's leadership
>>     /especially/ cannot afford to cement D in the minds of 
>> /potential/
>>     contributors as a language whose leadership is 
>> disrespectful,
>>     unprofessional, and frustrating to work with.
>> 
>> I agree.
>> 
>>     This fork should have been a wakeup call, but already, 
>> looking at
>>     this thread, I can see that the wrong lessons are being 
>> learned.
>> 
>> FWIW, it definitely was a wakeup call, at least for me.
>
> To be blunt, you and Walter are never on Discord, or anywhere 
> where people are normally talking socially.
>
> In general, you're simply not active enough and on the ball 
> about things to be doing the role you have.
>
> If there is a problem you quite often don't hear about it 
> unless it goes through us long timers and even then it could 
> take months.
>
> I personally have had problems with you not following up on 
> things. That is not conducive towards getting people to 
> contribute.

I think that this thread is now going in the wrong direction, 
what can be obtained in asking people things that can't provide? 
This thread is improving trust or is mining it? Why ask Atila / 
Walter to be different?

More _delegation_ in _taking decisions_ is needed, and to archive 
that, trust in decisions taken by delegated people is needed.

Procedures and roles are to be revamped to improve the way D is 
managed, taking in account that emerged by the "wakeup call"? 
Well, to my understanding that's someone that can provide 
professional advices on what to change and how to change it, or 
at least can mentor the DLF on that road: UCORA people, they are 
professional on that, it's their job.

Is that feasible? If yes, let's try to be constructive on that.