<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Jonathan M Davis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jmdavisProg@gmx.com">jmdavisProg@gmx.com</a>></span> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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</div></div>It's both. Without any developers, there obviously won't be any code. However,<br>
until someone takes the initiative and sets up a proper place and framework<br>
for projects to be posted to with the idea that it's an incubator for possible<br>
additions to Phobos or for major 3rd party D projects, then there's no place<br>
for those developers to post their stuff. Right now, such stuff would either<br>
be posted on dsource and be lost in all of the cruft sitting there, or it<br>
would be posted on someplace like github where there's no real connection<br>
between any of the projects. A proper incubator site/project would be _the_<br>
place to go looking for D projects, and it would be properly managed so that<br>
the state of each project was clear and dead/inactive projects weren't in the<br>
way (be it because they're removed or put in an area where such projects go<br>
and don't get in the way).<br>
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So, we need someone to take the initiative to set up a proper incubator<br>
site/project for D projects, and then we need developers to actually write<br>
projects/libraries and post them there.<br>
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- Jonathan M Davis<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>I'm still not sure what people mean by "incubator". If you are talking about dsource2, then no, it's a bad idea. People should be able to use whatever site, whatever project management software, and whatever tool they want for their code. Besides, a lot of momentum is needed to get something like RubyForge to work, and D doesn't have that momentum, yet. <br>
<br>As for D and Phobos, I think what you are trying to describe is a place where interested developers could quickly find out _what_ needs to be done and _how_ to get involved. That place should be <a href="http://www.digitalmars.com/d">www.digitalmars.com/d</a> but it's not; everything from its 80s design style to lack of important information. Just compare <a href="http://docs.python.org/devguide/">http://docs.python.org/devguide/</a> to it. First impressions count, and I'm not just talking about looks here. <br>
<br>So, yes, "build it and they will come."<br>