<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 December 2013 21:37, Meta <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jared771@gmail.com" target="_blank">jared771@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On Thursday, 12 December 2013 at 10:43:24 UTC, Manu wrote:<br>
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So, I'm a massive fan of music games. I'll shamefully admit that I was<br>
tragically addicted to Dance Dance Revolution about 10 years ago. Recently,<br>
it's Guitar Hero and Rock Band.<br>
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You're 6 years behind the curve =). My brother got Guitar hero 2 for Christmas one year and I was instantly hooked. Guitar Hero 3 still remains my most played game besides maybe Civilization IV.</blockquote><div><br>
</div><div>I wouldn't say I'm 6 years behind... I just haven't gotten over it yet. I'm like that.</div><div>I still break out my Amiga from time to time when I feel nostalgic (I was stuck on that wagon waaaaay too long aswell).</div>
<div><br></div><div>I was on to Guitar Hero from day one. I imported it from the US shortly after launch, so I had it 6 months before everyone else in Australia (we always get stuff a year late!).</div><div>During GH1, 2, 3 (world tour), there was a big custom-song community, with loads of torrents of the bootleg PS2 game, re-fitted with custom songs floating around on the internets.</div>
<div>I was involved in the birth of the GH custom song movement, initially reverse engineering the PS2 song formats so I could import the songs off the PS2 disc's into my custom engine (I wanted to play on other platforms initially).</div>
<div>Others got involved, people started working on tools. My GH engine transformed into an editor which was the go-to tool for creating custom guitar hero songs, and I even heard word that some preferred it to the in-house tools at Harmonix and Neversoft, apparently they had staff who preferred to use my editor at work ;)</div>
<div>I met with some of the guys at GDC and asked them where my credit was at the end of the game... and maybe a cheque would be nice (that game was worth billions!). They become uncomfortable ;)</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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The problem is though, that Neversoft and Harmonix completely fucked up the<br>
GH and RB franchises. Licensing problems, fragmented tracklists. It's<br>
annoying that all the songs you want to play are spread across literally 10<br>
or so different games, and you need to constantly change disc's if you want<br>
to play the songs you like.<br>
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Did they ever... It's really Activision's fault for running Guitar Hero into the ground. I remember them releasing a statement around 2009 saying that they planned to release 6 new Guitar Hero games within that year alone. It was then that I knew it was over.</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>Indeed. So the first goal of my resurrected project, is to collate the entire back-catalog into one unified experience.</div><div><br></div><div>I was involved in a similar project called StepMania back when, which solved the same problem with Dance Dance Revolution. Guitar Hero/Rock Band needs the same treatment.</div>
<div>It also needs a proper editor and a webstore allowing any indy musicians to create songs and sell them for a dollar each. Nothing gets you into a bands songs more than physically playing them over and over again with friends.</div>
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I've been meaning to kick off a guitar hero clone since GH2 came out. I<br>
started one years ago as a fork of my Guitar Hero song editor for PS2, and<br>
I added support for drums before GH4 or RB were conceived, but then when<br>
they announced those games they stole my thunder and it went into<br>
hibernation.<br>
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Have you heard of Frets on Fire? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frets_on_Fire" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Frets_on_Fire</a><br>
I remember trying this out several years ago, though it didn't really have that smoothe Guitar Hero feel.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, it's fucking terrible. It's also written in Java, which might partly explain the first bit...</div>
<div>Fortunately, I'm a professional, and I'm certain I can accurately reproduce the feel of the proper games. My editor already does. It just needs to be fleshed out with lots of presentation work.</div><div>I also expect it to run on my consoles. Obviously console ports are important! :)</div>
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I'm very keen to resurrect the project (well, start a new one, with clean<br>
code, in D).<br>
Are there any music game nerds hanging around here who would be interested<br>
in joining a side project like this? It's a lot more motivating, and much<br>
more fun to work in a small team.<br>
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I wish I had the time.<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I don't really have time either, but some things just have to be done! :)</div></div>