[dmd-internals] [dmd-beta] Time for new beta

[Walter Bright]

On 5/28/2012 11:38 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
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> On May 29, 2012, at 02:34 AM, Walter Bright <walter at digitalmars.com> wrote:
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>> On 5/28/2012 1:07 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
>> > There's an analogy that we like to use at work, and in my experience it 
>> holds pretty well for code quality and bleeds
>> > pretty well into the entire development process:
>> >
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory
>> >
>> > We do an ok job when it comes to the tests (though certainly not perfect). 
>> We've been getting a lot better at
>> > addressing regressions, though there's still 4 open right now (1 phobos, 2 
>> druntime, 1 dmd). Can we please make the
>> > remaining open regressions a release blocker?
>>
>> My idea is more along the lines of at least having it not be *worse* than the
>> previous release. That would be one regression at this point, which has an
>> outstanding pull request.
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> I don't think that's good enough. If a regression is introduced in a release 
> we need to do better than the previous release. Otherwise the number of 
> regression may not have been reduced.

I think the changelog, which shows 80 bugs fixed in dmd alone, shows that this 
is better.

>
>> >What's stopping us from handling all pull requests w/in a week? Or even 
>> better a day or two?
>>
>>
>> Currently I'm working on the 64 bit struct ABI, which is marked as a critical
>> blocker (a sentiment I agree with).
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> Sure it's great that you're working on this issue but I don't think there's 
> that many that actally are depending on being able to generate 64bit code.
>
> * Windows - can't generate 64bit code - not an issue.
> * Mac OS X - one can seamlessly compile both 32 and 64bit code. All system 
> libraries ship at least in 32 and 64bit x86 code - not an issue.
> * Linux - Can usually not compile for other architectures. Needs to install 
> 32bit compatible libraries - in most of the cases a minor inconvenience.
> * FreeBSD - Don't know, but I'm assuming it's similar to how it's on Linux
>

Some people on the n.g. stated that this was a critical blocker for them because 
they could not make a credible interface to C libraries that relied on 
passing/returning structs.