[dmd-internals] DMD copyright assignment

Leandro Lucarella via dmd-internals dmd-internals at puremagic.com
Wed Jun 25 06:19:39 PDT 2014


Andrei Alexandrescu via dmd-internals, el 24 de June a las 18:46 me escribiste:
> On 6/24/14, 5:23 PM, David Nadlinger wrote:
> >On 25 Jun 2014, at 0:55, Andrei Alexandrescu via dmd-internals wrote:
> >>What seems pointless to me is this long and protracted discussion
> >>around... around what? What or whom are we talking about protecting
> >>here? It's not a practical matter, and it's not a matter of
> >>principles. If protecting the copyright of one's work is high on one's
> >>list of priorities, OSS is not the best place to be.
> >>
> >>Crap has happened before, among reasonable people, and in ways that
> >>had not been predicted. We don't have money. We don't have lawyers. We
> >>don't want to spend time analyzing, projecting, estimating, or
> >>speculating. We want to keep things simple and save everybody involved
> >>complications while keeping everything as open as possible. This very
> >>discussion is a huge waste of time wanking over nothing. What the heck
> >>are we even _talking_ about, folks?
> >
> >You know what's funny about this, Andrei?
> >
> >I don't know whether you realize it or not, but your message could be
> >used equally well _against_ requiring copyright assignment.
> >
> >To put it another way, if you don't think it's worth the discussion,
> >let's go the path of least resistance, to continue what we are doing and
> >not require copyright assignment.
> 
> A fair point, but I see it a different way.
> 
> The creator, first implementer, and main contributor of the D
> programming language is asking for something that would make his
> life simpler and asks me for a bureaucracy token.

Why? I still don't get it. All the rest makes no sense at all unless you
can answer that question.

> It doesn't impact the usefulness of my work and doesn't take away
> credit for public work I do, and the person asking is about as candid
> as it could ever get.
> 
> I've done a lot "worse" in the past. All of my books are copyrighted
> by Addison-Wesley Longman. My name is on two patents owned by
> Facebook. Most articles I wrote are copyrighted by whoever published
> them. All of my videos are copyrighted by the respective
> organizations and events, some of which I believe are
> stereotypically evil corporations. All were a lot of hard work. Some
> of these were paid for, but most not. Had I started a debate like
> this with them, their lawyers would have probably ceased the
> collaboration and everybody would have been worse off, and most of
> all the "greater good". Being liberal about making my work available
> and letting credit reach me instead of obsessing over it may as well
> be the best policy I've held throughout my career.
> 
> Now am I to self-righteously argue with Walter Bright just because
> he's more accessible and doesn't have lawyers to slice and dice
> things for him? I wouldn't find that an honorable thing to do.
> 
> I'm out of this discussion. I'll let Walter decide. If he decides to
> forgo potential contributions from people afraid he'll steal their
> work, so be it.
> 
> 
> Andrei
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