[phobos] Community shout-out?

Sean Kelly sean at invisibleduck.org
Tue Nov 16 07:39:47 PST 2010


That was an old list.  As long as the author listed next to the module isn't the current author, we're good :-)

On Nov 16, 2010, at 3:49 AM, Masahiro Nakagawa wrote:

> In the trunk, I already replaced base64 module.
> 
> 
> Masahiro
> 
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:42:09 +0900, Sean Kelly <sean at invisibleduck.org> wrote:
> 
>> These are the modules that couldn't be moved to the Boost license for one reason or another.  They should all be removed or replaced:
>> 
>> base64 - Chris Miller
>> loader - Matthew Wilson
>> md5 - RSA Data Security
>> openrj - Matthew Wilson
>> perf - Matthew Wilson
>> socket - Chris Miller
>> socketstream - Chris Miller
>> stream - Pavel Minayev
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 12:05 AM, SHOO wrote:
>> 
>>> I think that it is important that we prioritize our to-do list.
>>> 
>>> Therefore I think that firstly we should make a list. Next, it is necessary for us to clarify the problem that each item has.
>>> 
>>> I show following list the thing which I hit on:
>>> - std.stream, I/O (replace, enhance)
>>> - std.xml (replace?)
>>> - std.json (replace?)
>>> - std.datetime (replace, enhance)
>>> - scope/RAII (replace, enhance)
>>> - std.scoket / asio (replace)
>>> - std.event (enhance)
>>> - std.serialize (enhance)
>>> - documents (enhance)
>>> - std.process (enhance)
>>> - std.path, std.file (enhance)
>>> - pure (apply)
>>> - nothrow (apply)
>>> - @safe/@trusted/@system (apply)
>>> - shared (enhance, bug fix)
>>> - GC (enhance)
>>> - std.container (enhance)
>>> - opDollars (enhance, apply)
>>> - and some voted bugs (bug fix)
>>> (I only enumerate of the list at this stage, and omit the detailed explanation.)
>>> 
>>> Are there items else?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> SHOO
>>> 
>>> (2010/11/14 14:52), Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>>>> We have several modules in Phobos which are supposedly going to be deprecated in
>>>> favor of better implementations (std.stream, std.xml, std.json, etc). As I
>>>> understand it, this is primarily because the code isn't being maintained, is
>>>> poorly designed for D2 (possibly because it isn't range-centric or just hasn't
>>>> been updated with D2-only features), and/or lacks a maintainer/champion. In
>>>> addition to that, there's various types of functionality which should probably
>>>> be in Phobos but haven't been done yet.
>>>> 
>>>> The Phobos developers only have so much time on their hands, and some portion of
>>>> this kind of work is going to need to be done by people who are not currently on
>>>> the Phobos team. That, and we seem to be adopting the idea that the ideal
>>>> situation is for each module to have a "champion" of sorts who is behind the
>>>> module, working to fix bugs on it and make it better.
>>>> 
>>>> So, I was wondering if what we should do is figure out what some of the modules
>>>> are that we want in Phobos - and in particular the ones currently in Phobos
>>>> which need to be overhauled - and then post on the main D list looking for
>>>> people willing to take them on. We don't want to a flood of code that needs to be
>>>> reviewed for inclusion in Phobos, but if we want to get a lot of this stuff done,
>>>> we need more people working on it - particularly people who are really looking
>>>> to focus on it and champion it.
>>>> 
>>>> So, I'm suggesting that we identify the top priority module which aren't likely
>>>> to be done by Phobos developers any time soon and see if we can get others in
>>>> the D community to do them. In particular, it's a problem that we have several
>>>> modules which we intend to replace. The longer that we wait, the more code that
>>>> will be written using the old modules, and the more code which will break when
>>>> they get replaced.
>>>> 
>>>> - Jonathan M Davis
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