[phobos] Community shout-out?

SHOO zan77137 at nifty.com
Tue Nov 16 11:19:35 PST 2010


socket and socketstream depend on D's I/O design.
Because there are many things depending on I/O else, I think that the 
importance of the I/O is high.

--
SHOO

(2010/11/16 6:42), Sean Kelly wrote:
> These are the modules that couldn't be moved to the Boost license for one reason or another.  They should all be removed or replaced:
>
> base64 - Chris Miller
> loader - Matthew Wilson
> md5 - RSA Data Security
> openrj - Matthew Wilson
> perf - Matthew Wilson
> socket - Chris Miller
> socketstream - Chris Miller
> stream - Pavel Minayev
>
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 12:05 AM, SHOO wrote:
>
>> I think that it is important that we prioritize our to-do list.
>>
>> Therefore I think that firstly we should make a list. Next, it is necessary for us to clarify the problem that each item has.
>>
>> I show following list the thing which I hit on:
>> - std.stream, I/O (replace, enhance)
>> - std.xml (replace?)
>> - std.json (replace?)
>> - std.datetime (replace, enhance)
>> - scope/RAII (replace, enhance)
>> - std.scoket / asio (replace)
>> - std.event (enhance)
>> - std.serialize (enhance)
>> - documents (enhance)
>> - std.process (enhance)
>> - std.path, std.file (enhance)
>> - pure (apply)
>> - nothrow (apply)
>> - @safe/@trusted/@system (apply)
>> - shared (enhance, bug fix)
>> - GC (enhance)
>> - std.container (enhance)
>> - opDollars (enhance, apply)
>> - and some voted bugs (bug fix)
>> (I only enumerate of the list at this stage, and omit the detailed explanation.)
>>
>> Are there items else?
>>
>> --
>> SHOO
>>
>> (2010/11/14 14:52), Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>>> We have several modules in Phobos which are supposedly going to be deprecated in
>>> favor of better implementations (std.stream, std.xml, std.json, etc). As I
>>> understand it, this is primarily because the code isn't being maintained, is
>>> poorly designed for D2 (possibly because it isn't range-centric or just hasn't
>>> been updated with D2-only features), and/or lacks a maintainer/champion. In
>>> addition to that, there's various types of functionality which should probably
>>> be in Phobos but haven't been done yet.
>>>
>>> The Phobos developers only have so much time on their hands, and some portion of
>>> this kind of work is going to need to be done by people who are not currently on
>>> the Phobos team. That, and we seem to be adopting the idea that the ideal
>>> situation is for each module to have a "champion" of sorts who is behind the
>>> module, working to fix bugs on it and make it better.
>>>
>>> So, I was wondering if what we should do is figure out what some of the modules
>>> are that we want in Phobos - and in particular the ones currently in Phobos
>>> which need to be overhauled - and then post on the main D list looking for
>>> people willing to take them on. We don't want to a flood of code that needs to be
>>> reviewed for inclusion in Phobos, but if we want to get a lot of this stuff done,
>>> we need more people working on it - particularly people who are really looking
>>> to focus on it and champion it.
>>>
>>> So, I'm suggesting that we identify the top priority module which aren't likely
>>> to be done by Phobos developers any time soon and see if we can get others in
>>> the D community to do them. In particular, it's a problem that we have several
>>> modules which we intend to replace. The longer that we wait, the more code that
>>> will be written using the old modules, and the more code which will break when
>>> they get replaced.
>>>
>>> - Jonathan M Davis
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