[phobos] Time to get ready for the next release

David Simcha dsimcha at gmail.com
Thu Apr 21 13:32:31 PDT 2011


FYI, Wikipedia's article on uniform access is great.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_access_principle

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Robert Jacques <sandford at jhu.edu> wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:41:17 -0400, David Simcha <dsimcha at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Jonathan M Davis
>>
>
> [snip]
>
>
>  I know that there are a number of people on the list - particularly newer
>>> posters - who fully expect @property to be strict and are surpised when
>>> it
>>> isn't. And I see _zero_ problem with strong property enforcement as long
>>> as
>>> the compiler isn't buggy with regards to properties (which it currently
>>> is).
>>> So, I'm 100% behind strict enforcement.
>>>
>>> - Jonathan M Davis
>>>
>>
> What about the fact that no two people can agree what should and shouldn't
> be a property? Or, more practically, that third party library A won't
> conform with organization B's coding policies? Or how about that an O(1)
> property which gets re-factored into a big expensive O(N) operation (i.e.
> see bug 5813) Or ranges/containers that may all have different mixes of
> function-like methods and field-like methods. Speaking of templates, what
> about how well/poorly opDispatch, etc compose with @property? Oh, and then
> there are entire articles against the @property solution to the field/method
> syntax problem in computer science literature (look up the Uniform access
> principle used in Ruby and Eiffel).
>
> Also, surprise isn't necessarily a bad thing. Methods-as-properties
> surprised me I received when I first started using D and it put a massive
> smile of joy onto my face in the process.
>
>
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