When is @property going to start being enforced, i.e. when are you going to no longer be able to call non @property functions w/o ()s or assign using the = sign to a non-@property function? I never really followed the newsgroup discussion b/c I was happy with the old status quo and didn't think Walter would give in, so I lost track of what exactly @property even does.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrei@erdani.com">andrei@erdani.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On 06/23/2010 10:59 AM, Max Samukha wrote:<br>
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu <<a href="mailto:andrei@erdani.com" target="_blank">andrei@erdani.com</a><br></div><div class="im">
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I think it should be a property. I followed the convention that<br>
stuff that doesn't change "this" is a property.<br>
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Andrei<br>
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But property setters are often supposed to change 'this'?<br>
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Well of course I was referring to getters.<div class="im"><br>
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Honestly I can<br>
hardly see much utility in @property. For example, Q_PROPERTY in Qt adds<br>
value. It is introspectable, can fire a notification when changed,<br>
optionally shows up in the designer, is resettable to a default value<br>
and more. Is @property only useful for disambiguating the case when a<br>
function returns a callable?<br>
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On the same grounds, I opposed @property tooth and nail and now, unpleasantly enough, my worst scares are coming true: @property is a non-falsifiable sham, a convention defined for the sake of following it. I strongly believe the alternatives I proposed would have been vastly better.<br>
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