[Robotgroup] [Fwd: First Night Media Party--this Thursday!]
john at cozmicfunk.com
john at cozmicfunk.com
Wed Dec 5 18:38:00 PST 2007
In response to the "First Night" casualties from the RG, I offer to
bring J-65!
First, it works, It has received overwhelming response from Maker Faire
and DorkBot, it fits in my car, easy to tranport and Since I am both
"Starving"
and "Artist" I would definitely be a fit in with the artistic Austin
Bohemian Culture
or ABC for short.
And second, I should also mention that since I have been so industrious
in my abilities
to save money, I gave myself my own haircut and am now sporting my own
version of
Mohawk with my gray hair and all, so now I am definitely ABC.
I actually got a compliment on it last night. 42 and still cool :)
J-65 page here to refresh those interested:
http://www.cozmicfunk.com/J65Robot.html
And for those who also have nothing to do on Sunday night at 10:30, I
will be on public access
channel 10 performing my one Mandroid band on the Sci-Borg Sam show.
Talk about good times!
Peace:)
P-Funk
Vern Graner wrote:
> Ed Gonzales wrote:
>
>> Is this the ONLY notification The RG members would get for this event?
>>
>
> It might have been announced elsewhere, but I just fwd'd the email when
> I got it. It *might* be the only notice, I'm not sure (I don't keep up
> with everything that well, sorry). :(
>
>
>> Are they so disorganized as to give The RG participants only ONE day's notice?
>>
>
> Mebbe...? I haven't checked the paper work they gave us or the web site
> to see if it was already announced and we missed everything but the
> "reminder" email. Could be me that is that disorganized. :/
>
>
>> What happens if somebody already has something scheduled that evening?
>>
>
> Lots of the First Night acts are dancers or musicians and so they, in
> many cases, just show up with their instrument-- in costume and/or with
> a boom box and dance or play. Or if they paint, they bring a poster and
> some markers.. not much setup. Lots of artists are "free spirits" (i.e.
> unemployed) ;) so they may only have to reschedule meeting their coffee
> chat buddies at Ruta Maya. :D
>
>
>> Have they recently completed a Toll Road that runs from the outlying areas straight into downtown so it only takes five minutes to drive there?
>>
>
> Agh! I hope not. /me h8s toll roads, but thats a different discussion.
> ;) I know that these type things (events early in the day) are usually
> arranged to make it so the local media can shoot it and then use it on
> the evening news. It also makes it so the city officials can appear and
> make announcements/speeches before they leave their office for the end
> of the day. In many cases the "starving artist" types (metaphorical or
> actual) will ditch their "sandwich artist" gig in a heartbeat for the
> lure of performing on TV. ;)
>
>
>> IMHO, I think bringing ANYTHING more (such as the P-Nator) than the originally agreed to commitment for the event (the RSA) would be considered over-extending the Group's willingness to support this organization. This isn't the first time The Group has received last-minute notice, and should be taken into consideration before signing up for more work, reduced financial reimbursement and MUCH less time.
>>
>
> I can certainly understand the sentiment here, as it kinda seems like
> they're "ripping us off" in that they 1) slashed our requested budget in
> half 2) didn't approve *any* of our new proposals, 3) they pulled the
> artist fee completely out of the proposal. It feels like, by doing this,
> they are effectively declaring we are not "worth" as much, and it can
> seem insulting to us and our efforts... At the same time, we (and by
> *we* I mean *I*) :) have "upped" the benefit to them by offering to
> bring the Ponginator.
>
> So the question is, WHY would I offer to add the Ponginator to the mix?
>
> Mostly, because of my talk with Ginny. She is pretty fed up with the
> folks at First Night and with their precipitous plunge in funding. Turns
> out that, for a number of reasons, First Night does NOT have the funds
> they had in previous years. They have had to cut acts and/or ask for
> folks to reduce their financial requests in order to put on the show at
> all. (we're not the only ones who had projects not approved and/or
> funding cuts).
>
> But still, WHY would I offer the "upgrade"? Lets put some perspective in
> here. First Night provided %100 of the money for some of the major
> projects we've done in the last 2.5 years and those projects have served
> us well:
>
> --%100 of the Therepings
>
> <<How many events have we used those in (Yes Mike, "Too many!", I
> know..) They were featured at *both* Maker Faire's, been used multiple
> times at the Children's museum (both San Marcos and Austin), were the
> focus of a national tech article in Nuts and Volts and even featured in
> SPIN magazine!>>
>
> --%100 of the Theremin Marching Band T-Shirts.
>
> --95% or the RoboSpinArt (I spent some of my
> own money there cause I had goofed on my
> estimates of costs, not their fault).
>
> <<How many events have these things been featured in? Children's Museums
> both in Austin and San Marcos, Dorkbot(s), EFF party, Armadillocon,
> wheel roundup, etc.>>
>
> --100% of the tie-dye RSA t-shirts were funded
>
> So, total $$ given for projects by First Night so far?
>
> about $5000.00!
>
> In comparison, we went to great effort and brought out *everything* for
> the EFF/SXSW party and got $500.00.. we brought multiple things to the
> Children's Museum and got $100.00 and for Maker Faire, and it *cost* us
> about $1000.00 to participate!
>
> I'm not saying we didn't get a benefit from going to all those other
> events, (including Maker Faire), but I am pointing out that First Night
> (from a *strictly* financial perspective) is most deserving of any
> additional effort we might be able to put out.
>
> I think it's a visceral response when we feel resentment towards First
> Night (or any organization for that matter) that, through their actions,
> appears to devalue our works. But, examining the circumstances, I think
> its justified to suspend the emotional response and try to help out a
> group that has helped us financially more than any other single group in
> the last 3 years. Just my $0.02... :)
>
>
>> Sonia is right: If it takes a trailer to bring your display, you're taking too much.
>>
>
> It sure "ups" the investment of time and energy. :( With this in mind,
> the RSA was designed to be handled by one person (with little
> difficulty) and be transported on a bench seat in a car. The Boogie Bot
> was supposed to be a step towards self-deploying systems (mostly cause
> I'm not gettin any younger and dang it, I'm TIRED when we're done with a
> gig!).
>
> Maybe we should find some way to size-reduce Ponginator..? Maybe an
> inflatable skin? hmmmmm I wonder if we could "seal" the skin we have and
> use an air pump to inflate it? Then we would just have to find a way to
> support the guns... hmmm.... :)
>
>
>> Now you see why I'm not running for an elected position this month . . . . . .
>>
>
> How's next month looking? ;)
>
> Vern
>
>
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