[Robotgroup] EFF Party poster...?

[Jon Lebkowsky]

Vern,

First: we *definitely* want the Robot Group at the event.  That's a definite
100% certainty.

When I saw a final of the poster a few days ago, I told Doryan it was a
no-go, that the Robot Group had to be included. He said it was too late, the
poster was already at the printer. There wasn't a whole lot EFF-Austin could
do at that point, and I was pretty upset about it. Doryan told me that he
would talk to you about it, which is why he emailed you.

Of course, he shouldn't have sent the flyer to the printer without my
review, but when I didn't respond that same afternoon, he took it to the
printer anyway.

I don't think Doryan meant to say he didn't know you were participating,
because he obviously did. What he told me was that nobody had told him you
had to be *on the flyer*, which I think is just CYA on his part, because I
think it was obvious we wanted you on there, based on the earlier discussion
you've quoted.  It would've felt better if he'd at least said, yeah, I
screwed up.

It's true that Doryan has done an awful lot of work for very little pay, but
there's no question this shouldn't have happened.  I'm really sorry about
it. Tell us what we can do to make it right at this point, and we'll do it,
but please do plan on coming to the event. (Incidentally we did manage to
raise some $$ for TRG. And he says TRG is in all the other PR, though I
haven't actually seen more than one message.)

Thanks,
Jon

Doryan sent me a final of

On 3/5/07, Vern Graner <vern at txis.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, so the poster for the EFF party is here! Its very, *very* cool! But
> very sad. It has NO mention of The Robot Group anywhere on it:
>
> http://www.robotgroup.net/eff-party.jpg
>
> A bit of back story:
>
> --On Feb 1st, I told Jon that The Robot Group would be glad to
> participate in the EFF party.
>
> --On Feb 12th an announcement of the EFF party made the rounds on some
> mailing lists and I noticed The Robot Group was not mentioned. I pinged
> Jon & Doryan to ask if we had been dropped from the event. I received a
> response from Jon and from Doryan apologizing for the oversight. To
> quote from Doryans response on Feb 14th:
>
> "The next PRs that we release closer to the date will be more detailed
> as to the performer line-up, and you all will DEFINITELY be featured
> there." --Doryan
>
> --On Feb 28th I received an email from Doryan telling me that he was
> "sorry about the flyer" and that he had been "busting his ass" for
> months etc etc. He then went on to say that our participation in the
> event had not been "conveyed to [him] by the powers that be". Which is
> strange since he acknowledged our agreement to participate on Feb 12th
> AND promised to include us in all future adverting. He then went on to
> assure us that we would be included in all OTHER media about the
> event...? (WTF?)
>
> --On Mar 3, I received an email from Doryan with a kick-ass flyer for
> the EFF steam punk party.. I mean really. The flyer is COOL! Sadly it
> has not one word about The Robot Group... :(
>
> The real drag is that I don't know what I could have done different to
> insure that we had some type of representation in the flyer and in their
> advertising.
>
> Does anyone know for *certain* if they really want us there? I haven't
> gotten any feedback other than these emails, but I'm wondering if
> there's some secret back story to which I am not privy..? On or offlist
> replies welcome... I'd just like to understand. :/
>
> Vern
>
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