[Robotgroup] EFF Party poster...?

Jon Lebkowsky jon.lebkowsky at gmail.com
Mon Mar 5 17:54:31 PST 2007 

We start at 7pm on March 12 - it's at Scholz Garten... I'm sure early setup
is a-okay.

best,
Jon

On 3/5/07, Marvin Niebuhr <marvart at msn.com> wrote:
>
> soooo-aaaarre we in and when. You can count on me to help set up and down.
> I won't have my "Percussionator" ready until Dorkbot 6.  Marvin
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jon Lebkowsky<mailto:jon.lebkowsky at gmail.com>
>   To: The Robot Group Mailing List<mailto:robotgroup at puremagic.com>
>   Cc: 'Doryan'<mailto:doryan at hububashu.com>
>   Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 7:25 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Robotgroup] EFF Party poster...?
>
>
>   Vern,
>
>   First: we *definitely* want the Robot Group at the event.  That's a
> definite
>   100% certainty.
>
>   When I saw a final of the poster a few days ago, I told Doryan it was a
>   no-go, that the Robot Group had to be included. He said it was too late,
> the
>   poster was already at the printer. There wasn't a whole lot EFF-Austin
> could
>   do at that point, and I was pretty upset about it. Doryan told me that
> he
>   would talk to you about it, which is why he emailed you.
>
>   Of course, he shouldn't have sent the flyer to the printer without my
>   review, but when I didn't respond that same afternoon, he took it to the
>   printer anyway.
>
>   I don't think Doryan meant to say he didn't know you were participating,
>   because he obviously did. What he told me was that nobody had told him
> you
>   had to be *on the flyer*, which I think is just CYA on his part, because
> I
>   think it was obvious we wanted you on there, based on the earlier
> discussion
>   you've quoted.  It would've felt better if he'd at least said, yeah, I
>   screwed up.
>
>   It's true that Doryan has done an awful lot of work for very little pay,
> but
>   there's no question this shouldn't have happened.  I'm really sorry
> about
>   it. Tell us what we can do to make it right at this point, and we'll do
> it,
>   but please do plan on coming to the event. (Incidentally we did manage
> to
>   raise some $$ for TRG. And he says TRG is in all the other PR, though I
>   haven't actually seen more than one message.)
>
>   Thanks,
>   Jon
>
>   Doryan sent me a final of
>
>   On 3/5/07, Vern Graner <vern at txis.com<mailto:vern at txis.com>> wrote:
>   >
>   > Ok, so the poster for the EFF party is here! Its very, *very* cool!
> But
>   > very sad. It has NO mention of The Robot Group anywhere on it:
>   >
>   > http://www.robotgroup.net/eff-party.jpg<
> http://www.robotgroup.net/eff-party.jpg>
>   >
>   > A bit of back story:
>   >
>   > --On Feb 1st, I told Jon that The Robot Group would be glad to
>   > participate in the EFF party.
>   >
>   > --On Feb 12th an announcement of the EFF party made the rounds on some
>   > mailing lists and I noticed The Robot Group was not mentioned. I
> pinged
>   > Jon & Doryan to ask if we had been dropped from the event. I received
> a
>   > response from Jon and from Doryan apologizing for the oversight. To
>   > quote from Doryans response on Feb 14th:
>   >
>   > "The next PRs that we release closer to the date will be more detailed
>   > as to the performer line-up, and you all will DEFINITELY be featured
>   > there." --Doryan
>   >
>   > --On Feb 28th I received an email from Doryan telling me that he was
>   > "sorry about the flyer" and that he had been "busting his ass" for
>   > months etc etc. He then went on to say that our participation in the
>   > event had not been "conveyed to [him] by the powers that be". Which is
>   > strange since he acknowledged our agreement to participate on Feb 12th
>   > AND promised to include us in all future adverting. He then went on to
>   > assure us that we would be included in all OTHER media about the
>   > event...? (WTF?)
>   >
>   > --On Mar 3, I received an email from Doryan with a kick-ass flyer for
>   > the EFF steam punk party.. I mean really. The flyer is COOL! Sadly it
>   > has not one word about The Robot Group... :(
>   >
>   > The real drag is that I don't know what I could have done different to
>   > insure that we had some type of representation in the flyer and in
> their
>   > advertising.
>   >
>   > Does anyone know for *certain* if they really want us there? I haven't
>   > gotten any feedback other than these emails, but I'm wondering if
>   > there's some secret back story to which I am not privy..? On or
> offlist
>   > replies welcome... I'd just like to understand. :/
>   >
>   > Vern
>   >
>   > "Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy
>   > action." --Goldfinger
>   >
>   > --
>   > Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE    | "If the network is down, then you're
>   > Senior Systems Engineer    | obviously incompetent so why are we
>   > Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
>   > http://www.txis.com<http://www.txis.com/>        | is up, then we
> obviously don't need
>   > Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" (c)VLG
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