[Robotgroup] EFF Party poster...?

Don Colbath dcolbath at austin.rr.com
Mon Mar 5 17:58:25 PST 2007


Hey, We've got rolls of green Robot group Stickers.  Maybe there's a 
spot we could put them on that would have an aftermarket, guerilla, 
grafitti look ot it.  Tag the posters with a sticker!  I absolutly want 
one of the posters after and the Dorkbot poster too.

Don

Jon Lebkowsky wrote:

>Vern,
>
>First: we *definitely* want the Robot Group at the event.  That's a definite
>100% certainty.
>
>When I saw a final of the poster a few days ago, I told Doryan it was a
>no-go, that the Robot Group had to be included. He said it was too late, the
>poster was already at the printer. There wasn't a whole lot EFF-Austin could
>do at that point, and I was pretty upset about it. Doryan told me that he
>would talk to you about it, which is why he emailed you.
>
>Of course, he shouldn't have sent the flyer to the printer without my
>review, but when I didn't respond that same afternoon, he took it to the
>printer anyway.
>
>I don't think Doryan meant to say he didn't know you were participating,
>because he obviously did. What he told me was that nobody had told him you
>had to be *on the flyer*, which I think is just CYA on his part, because I
>think it was obvious we wanted you on there, based on the earlier discussion
>you've quoted.  It would've felt better if he'd at least said, yeah, I
>screwed up.
>
>It's true that Doryan has done an awful lot of work for very little pay, but
>there's no question this shouldn't have happened.  I'm really sorry about
>it. Tell us what we can do to make it right at this point, and we'll do it,
>but please do plan on coming to the event. (Incidentally we did manage to
>raise some $$ for TRG. And he says TRG is in all the other PR, though I
>haven't actually seen more than one message.)
>
>Thanks,
>Jon
>
>Doryan sent me a final of
>
>On 3/5/07, Vern Graner <vern at txis.com> wrote:
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>>Ok, so the poster for the EFF party is here! Its very, *very* cool! But
>>very sad. It has NO mention of The Robot Group anywhere on it:
>>
>>http://www.robotgroup.net/eff-party.jpg
>>
>>A bit of back story:
>>
>>--On Feb 1st, I told Jon that The Robot Group would be glad to
>>participate in the EFF party.
>>
>>--On Feb 12th an announcement of the EFF party made the rounds on some
>>mailing lists and I noticed The Robot Group was not mentioned. I pinged
>>Jon & Doryan to ask if we had been dropped from the event. I received a
>>response from Jon and from Doryan apologizing for the oversight. To
>>quote from Doryans response on Feb 14th:
>>
>>"The next PRs that we release closer to the date will be more detailed
>>as to the performer line-up, and you all will DEFINITELY be featured
>>there." --Doryan
>>
>>--On Feb 28th I received an email from Doryan telling me that he was
>>"sorry about the flyer" and that he had been "busting his ass" for
>>months etc etc. He then went on to say that our participation in the
>>event had not been "conveyed to [him] by the powers that be". Which is
>>strange since he acknowledged our agreement to participate on Feb 12th
>>AND promised to include us in all future adverting. He then went on to
>>assure us that we would be included in all OTHER media about the
>>event...? (WTF?)
>>
>>--On Mar 3, I received an email from Doryan with a kick-ass flyer for
>>the EFF steam punk party.. I mean really. The flyer is COOL! Sadly it
>>has not one word about The Robot Group... :(
>>
>>The real drag is that I don't know what I could have done different to
>>insure that we had some type of representation in the flyer and in their
>>advertising.
>>
>>Does anyone know for *certain* if they really want us there? I haven't
>>gotten any feedback other than these emails, but I'm wondering if
>>there's some secret back story to which I am not privy..? On or offlist
>>replies welcome... I'd just like to understand. :/
>>
>>Vern
>>
>>"Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy
>>action." --Goldfinger
>>
>>--
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>>Senior Systems Engineer    | obviously incompetent so why are we
>>Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
>>http://www.txis.com        | is up, then we obviously don't need
>>Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" (c)VLG
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