[Robotgroup] EFF Party poster...?

[Jon Lebkowsky]

Cool... I'm copying Doryan for his thoughts about how we can bring posters
and stickers together. Great thinking!

On 3/5/07, Don Colbath <dcolbath at austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Hey, We've got rolls of green Robot group Stickers.  Maybe there's a
> spot we could put them on that would have an aftermarket, guerilla,
> grafitti look ot it.  Tag the posters with a sticker!  I absolutly want
> one of the posters after and the Dorkbot poster too.
>
> Don
>
> Jon Lebkowsky wrote:
>
> >Vern,
> >
> >First: we *definitely* want the Robot Group at the event.  That's a
> definite
> >100% certainty.
> >
> >When I saw a final of the poster a few days ago, I told Doryan it was a
> >no-go, that the Robot Group had to be included. He said it was too late,
> the
> >poster was already at the printer. There wasn't a whole lot EFF-Austin
> could
> >do at that point, and I was pretty upset about it. Doryan told me that he
> >would talk to you about it, which is why he emailed you.
> >
> >Of course, he shouldn't have sent the flyer to the printer without my
> >review, but when I didn't respond that same afternoon, he took it to the
> >printer anyway.
> >
> >I don't think Doryan meant to say he didn't know you were participating,
> >because he obviously did. What he told me was that nobody had told him
> you
> >had to be *on the flyer*, which I think is just CYA on his part, because
> I
> >think it was obvious we wanted you on there, based on the earlier
> discussion
> >you've quoted.  It would've felt better if he'd at least said, yeah, I
> >screwed up.
> >
> >It's true that Doryan has done an awful lot of work for very little pay,
> but
> >there's no question this shouldn't have happened.  I'm really sorry about
> >it. Tell us what we can do to make it right at this point, and we'll do
> it,
> >but please do plan on coming to the event. (Incidentally we did manage to
> >raise some $$ for TRG. And he says TRG is in all the other PR, though I
> >haven't actually seen more than one message.)
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Jon
> >
> >Doryan sent me a final of
> >
> >On 3/5/07, Vern Graner <vern at txis.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Ok, so the poster for the EFF party is here! Its very, *very* cool! But
> >>very sad. It has NO mention of The Robot Group anywhere on it:
> >>
> >>http://www.robotgroup.net/eff-party.jpg
> >>
> >>A bit of back story:
> >>
> >>--On Feb 1st, I told Jon that The Robot Group would be glad to
> >>participate in the EFF party.
> >>
> >>--On Feb 12th an announcement of the EFF party made the rounds on some
> >>mailing lists and I noticed The Robot Group was not mentioned. I pinged
> >>Jon & Doryan to ask if we had been dropped from the event. I received a
> >>response from Jon and from Doryan apologizing for the oversight. To
> >>quote from Doryans response on Feb 14th:
> >>
> >>"The next PRs that we release closer to the date will be more detailed
> >>as to the performer line-up, and you all will DEFINITELY be featured
> >>there." --Doryan
> >>
> >>--On Feb 28th I received an email from Doryan telling me that he was
> >>"sorry about the flyer" and that he had been "busting his ass" for
> >>months etc etc. He then went on to say that our participation in the
> >>event had not been "conveyed to [him] by the powers that be". Which is
> >>strange since he acknowledged our agreement to participate on Feb 12th
> >>AND promised to include us in all future adverting. He then went on to
> >>assure us that we would be included in all OTHER media about the
> >>event...? (WTF?)
> >>
> >>--On Mar 3, I received an email from Doryan with a kick-ass flyer for
> >>the EFF steam punk party.. I mean really. The flyer is COOL! Sadly it
> >>has not one word about The Robot Group... :(
> >>
> >>The real drag is that I don't know what I could have done different to
> >>insure that we had some type of representation in the flyer and in their
> >>advertising.
> >>
> >>Does anyone know for *certain* if they really want us there? I haven't
> >>gotten any feedback other than these emails, but I'm wondering if
> >>there's some secret back story to which I am not privy..? On or offlist
> >>replies welcome... I'd just like to understand. :/
> >>
> >>Vern
> >>
> >>"Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy
> >>action." --Goldfinger
> >>
> >>--
> >>Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE    | "If the network is down, then you're
> >>Senior Systems Engineer    | obviously incompetent so why are we
> >>Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
> >>http://www.txis.com        | is up, then we obviously don't need
> >>Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" (c)VLG
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Robotgroup mailing list
> >>Robotgroup at puremagic.com
> >>http://lists.puremagic.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/robotgroup
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Robotgroup mailing list
> Robotgroup at puremagic.com
> http://lists.puremagic.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/robotgroup
>



-- 
Jon Lebkowsky
jon.lebkowsky at gmail.com

Consulting:
http://weblogsky.com/consulting-social.html

* Partner, Polycot Consulting: http://polycot.com
  jonl at polycot.com
* Blog: http://weblogsky.com