[Robotgroup] RG emails on Google

[Kevin Blanchard]

You bring up an excellent point Leslie. One of the dangers of leaving a
mailing lists archive wide open, is that if we are exchanging any private
information like someones address, phone number, etc. it is available to
everyone. The mailing lists I am on seem to not be as trusting as the ones
Vern appears to be on. :-)

Typically, the ones I am on will either disable archiving (not a fan) or
just have the only way you can access the archive is to log in with your
email adn password (via the web) or you can send mailman commands via
email to retireve block of messages.

I like these approaches. That way you don't have to think twice about what
you send in your email to the list. Any info we would want to share with
others via Google(or any other search) can easily and more articuletly be
plased on the website on meetup.com I beleive.

I also was surprised too today to find out the archive was left as
searchable. As a security engineer it makes me cringe ;-) lol  But I
understand that Vern and Erik set up the list that way for a reason. If it
is decided that the list archive is to remain searchable, we should check
to see if puremagic.com has a way of hiding or re-writing emails in a way
that cannot be indexed, then we just need to make sure new memebers know
when they sign up to NOT put any personal information in emails.

Kevin



On Mon, March 19, 2007 10:57 am, Leslie Filip wrote:
> Being a public list and being indexed on Google are two different
> animals. I would explicitly state to potential new posters that if
> they want their email address to remain private then they need to
> open a "spammable" account for Robot Group postings that is not their
> main email address. I certainly would have. Too frakin' late now,
> though. At least I never included my private cell number on the list,
> as that would have seriously sucked.
>
> Les
>
>
> On 19 Mar 2007, at 9:52 AM, Vern Graner wrote:
>
>> Leslie Filip wrote:
>>> If the emails are public
>>
>> AFAIK, *any* mailing list is effectively "public" in that you are
>> sending mail to all the subscribers to the list w/o knowing at any
>> given
>> time exactly is getting reading those mails.
>>
>> And, in many cases, the list is publicly archived for the express
>> purpose of allowing people to "research" issues and personalities on a
>> mailing list before participating.
>>
>> Since we moved the list to the "pure magic" servers, the entirety of
>> conversation has been archived and is available online here:
>>
>> http://lists.puremagic.com/pipermail/robotgroup/
>>
>> This is pretty standard "MO" for most hobby or SIG mailing lists
>> (I'm on
>> quite a few, created some and moderate a few others). Some examples:
>>
>> http://list.dprg.org/mailman/listinfo/dprglist
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Technical_Insanity/messages?o=1
>>
>> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress/messages?o=1
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Soundgin/messages?o=1
>>
>> and the list goes on... :)
>>
>>> I would suggest making this clear when someone signs up.
>>
>> The sigh-up page for the list, located here:
>>
>> http://lists.puremagic.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/robotgroup
>>
>> as the very first link on the page, says:
>>
>> "To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the
>> Robotgroup Archives."
>>
>> This would tend to indicate that the list is a public list...?
>>
>> Vern
>>
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