[Robotgroup] Printing PCBs

[Def Egge]

Clendon,

I like the idea of the group involvement and I 
applaud your initiative.  Right now, I have zero 
interest in a PCB for an H-bridge but I do have 
interest in some other one-off PCBs and learning to etch my own.

Much like the re-establishment of a Parallax 
BASIC Stamp SIG, the establishment of a home-brew 
PCB SIG is a great way for some to share 
expertise while others absorb it.  In my humble 
opinion (note that some of my students might 
testify that I know nothing about teaching), the 
responsibility of being taught is to teach others 
and / or do something useful to advance the group's goals.

I didn't find your reply to Vern petty of 
particularly defensive; however, I also did not 
find the original replies to be obnoxious. offensive, or aggressive.

I look forward to your continued involvement with The Robot Group.


All the best....

Mike

At 13:12  2007-05-08, you wrote:
>Hi Vern,
>
>Your point is taken.
>
>My interest in this particular route was 
>involvement with the group. Eric's alternative 
>is certainly a better solution from a 
>price/quality standpoint, but there is no group 
>involvement. While my e-mail sounded defensive 
>or even petty, I do wish to try to do something 
>with group involvement. It isn't the easiest 
>thing in the world for me to come to the 
>meetings, and I was excited about this being a chance to contribute.
>
>I hope also that you will agree that having a 
>way to make custom boards locally is useful. If 
>I pursue this, I will compare notes with Paul. Thank you for that pointer.
>
>I'm sorry you felt the need to write.
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Vern Graner <vern at txis.com>
>To: The Robot Group Mailing List <robotgroup at puremagic.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2007 11:50:05 AM
>Subject: Re: [Robotgroup] Printing PCBs
>
>Clendon Gibson wrote:
>  > Let me try this again. I can never compete with a mass
>  > produced thing. I have no intention of doing so. I'm no
>  > business man <snip>
>
>Clendon:
>
>There's really no reason to be defensive of your proposition, it wasn't
>being attacked. Eric was trying to be helpful. I don't want people to be
>afraid to suggest alternative methods to accomplish our goals.
>
>If the point of the exercise is to end up with a working speed
>controller, then Eric's contribution was relevant, on-topic and useful.
>Not a better/worse route than the one you offered, just an alternative.
>Multiple paths to the same goal is a good thing. :)
>
>If the point of the exercise was to learn how to etch PC boards, Paul
>has etched PC boards for a number of projects and has had very good luck
>doing so. Here's an example of one of the larger projects he did for me:
>
>http://www.notepad.org/hauntlite/images/img_0580.jpg
>
>Maybe Paul could help you (and anyone else that would like to
>participate) get started with role-your-own PCBs? :)
>
>Vern
>
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