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Leslie Filip
lfilip at mac.com
Sat Sep 8 01:08:48 PDT 2007
You do not have to be able to finish something in order to work on
it. Pushing the boundaries of what is possible, especially on a
budget, takes the multiplied efforts and knowledge of many people.
Just the sort of people that are members of The Robot Group. All
these brilliant people, many of which have a strong interest in
robotics, get together and then for some reason don't focus on
robotics. Sometimes they are rallied to work on stuff that is not
even remotely close to robotics, and no one asks the simple question:
why are we doing this?
Les
On 08 Sep 2007, at 2:52 AM, john at cozmicfunk.com wrote:
> Les,
> This is exactly my point I was illustrating earlier.
>
>> I also maintain that what we call a robot today may not
> necessarily be called a robot tomorrow.<
>
> The definition changes almost on a daily basis depending
> on who you talk to. I don't even agree with your definition,
> Les...
>
> How many robots to do know of first hand that are
> capable of adapting to its surroundings, learning,
> communicating, and changing, among other things?
>
> This sounds more like AI which of part of robotics,
> but is still very far away from being realistically
> implemented. MIT is working on such programmes with
> a financial resource available to them more than the
> collective wealth of most 3rd world countries.
> And you expect a club in Austin Texas to literally
> compete with that?
>
> Most people don't understand that Robotics
> is one of the last frontiers in human evolution:
> to recreate a synthetic thinking adapting being
> that is capable of making decisions based on it's
> own "Awareness" of it's environment, and do so
> in a way that demonstrates dare I say" creativity"!
>
> There are still Human "sheep" out there that can't
> demonstrate any creative problem solving unless you
> "programed" it for them. The fact that any group is
> conscious enough to make an effort in this frontier
> mostly afforded to those in higher academia and or
> the defense or lets even go out on a limb, NASA
> etc. is completely amazing. That you have artists
> and designers and coders and musicians all mixing
> together to create artistic "Robotic" inventions is
> upon itself not enough to warrant "Robot" in the name
> of the group?
>
> If this group was only concerned about making robots
> that fit your criteria, it would a robot fiction group.
> No one would ever get off the drawing board to build
> a real robot because that one does not exist yet.
> They only exist in movies like Star Wars and Blade Runner
> because someone had the imagination and creativity to
> artistically "suggest" what they may be like in a
> fictitious universe to start with. I would suggest you
> brush up on your fiction, start with RUR, because that
> is were robots started in the first place, they were
> slaves that replaced humnans...
> JPF
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> Leslie Filip wrote:
>> To me it is an electromechanical entity capable of adapting to its
>> surroundings, learning, communicating, and changing, among other
>> things. I also maintain that what we call a robot today may not
>> necessarily be called a robot tomorrow. It is much easier to say what
>> it isn't.
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
>> On 08 Sep 2007, at 12:27 AM, Edwin Wise wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 8 Sep 2007, at 12:02 AM, Leslie Filip wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I question why the name of the group ever had such a focus on
>>>> "Robot"
>>>> when it was and is a general arts and technology group.
>>>>
>>> What is a "robot" to you?
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
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