[Robotgroup] collectors hardware [was Amiag 2000 needs a goodhome...]

[Andre Lamothe]

I have eeproms 25-30 years old still intact, bottom line is if you keep them 
in good humidity, use them once in a while, they seem to survive quite long. 
That said, my friend sellam ismail with the worlds largest private 
collection is for the 1st time in history seeing that things are starting to 
fail. For example, the IBM pc original from 1981 or so, they are now 
starting to fail all over the place. Usually, he could just go grab one from 
dozens he has to get working, now, he has to go thru 10+ to get a good 
machine. So looks like 30 years is the realistic limit where we are going to 
start seeing all this technology stop working that has any kind of volatile 
memory systems other than real ROM, PROMS. Any kind of eeprom, earrom, etc. 
are going to go bye bye.

Andre'

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gray Mack" <gray_mack at yahoo.com>
To: "The Robot Group Mailing List" <robotgroup at puremagic.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Robotgroup] collectors hardware [was Amiag 2000 needs a 
goodhome...]


Its cool that these things are still around. I once
read that EEPROM from that time were guaranteed for 10
years and not expected to live much past 25. Is that
true? If so, then many species of collectors hardware
may be near extinction. Although I don't think the
eeproms were code-locked so they could potentially be
refreshed if that alone was the main failure point.

When I was a teenager, my parents supported my
computer addiction, but made a point never to buy a
pure gaming console. It was ok to play games, but he
wanted me to have a choice for learning, it had to
have a keyboard and at least one programming language.

I really don't remember what happened to my Sinclare
1000.
-Gray


--- Andre Lamothe <ceo at nurve.net> wrote:

> I will take good care of it if it works?
>
> My Amiga 500 was damaged in a flood, along with my
> Atari 800. 10 or so years
> ago, it was like 4 in the morning, huge rain just
> happened, I look outside,
> and I see a reflection of the moon on the ground, I
> am like "what the
> heck?". Then I realize there is 6 feet of water
> outside, cars are floating
> outside. What happened was the rain level got up to
> 2-6 inches on the
> ground, the idiots that designed the pumping station
> for the creek, put the
> pump at GROUND level, thus it shorted out, the creek
> overflowed and broke,
> and presto 100 million gallons of water are in my
> yard. My garage was full
> of 18 inches of water, luckily didn't get into my
> house, but all my
> computers on the ground in boxes were wrecked with
> mud.
>
> But, currently my collection consists of:
>
> Atari 400/800XL/800/130XE (1-2 of each)
> Apple II
> TRS 80 Model 3 (2)
> Commodore 64 (1 + spares for chips that burn out)
> TRS 80 Color Computer (1)
> Vic 20 (1)
>
> I think that's it :)
>
> Andre'
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Vern Graner" <vern at txis.com>
> To: "The Robot Group Mailing List"
> <robotgroup at puremagic.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:58 PM
> Subject: [Robotgroup] Amiag 2000 needs a good
> home...
>
>
> Dear Roboteers:
>
> A good friend of mine (and fellow Amiga enthusiast
> of old) has an Amiga
> 2000 that he is looking to place in a loving home.
> Though I would have
> snapped this up, most of you know I am in the
> process of moving and must
> divest of things rather than collect them. :(
>
> So, please contact me if you can take delivery of a
> A2000 and a few
> boxes of software and accessories. :)
>
> NOTE: He's pretty insistent that this go to a home
> and not a landfill or
> recycle center. So, if you're looking for a
> well-cared for vintage
> computing machine, its yours no cost. If you're
> looking for something to
> rip into pieces for recycle or other purposes, never
> mind.. :)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Vern
>
> -- 
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