[Robotgroup] Wasting a post (was: New low cost embedded controller products comingsoon any RG interesting in developing open source demos?)

Leslie Filip lfilip at mac.com
Mon Jul 14 02:30:24 PDT 2008


Andre',

Those who were present during the discussions of using the real name  
of the group wherever possible would not consider my post to have  
been wasted. We covered everything you wrote below, and then some.

Take care,
Les


On 12 Jul 2008, at 1:17 PM, Andre Lamothe wrote:

> Right, I know, that's why I used "RG" to refer to it, the point of  
> saying austin, is I want to re-enforce I want the local "austin"  
> robot group member and not some other members that are in another  
> cities states that lurk, since I need them local. But, that's not  
> really something I think is important to waste a post on Les. I  
> think everyone knows it's officially "The Robot Group". But,  
> whenever I say "The Robot Group" to any party outside of "The Robot  
> Group", the 1st thing they ask is "What robot group?" Then I reply  
> "the Austin Robot Group, well actually, it's not called the Austin  
> Robot Group, it's called "The Robot Group", I think there is  
> another group with the name "Austin Robot Group" and I go on  
> explaining this which is confusing to everyone. If you where to  
> tell someone at the MAKE faire as an example, "I am in the Robot  
> Group" they would have no idea what you're talking about, so after  
> you say its "The Robot Group" then you have to add the qualifying  
> statement, "it's actually in Austin", then they recall it as "the  
> guy from the Austin Robot Group", or the guy from an "Austin based  
> Robot Group". In any event, I think everyone is clear on this whole  
> name thing, and its obviously problematic from a descriptive point  
> of view, so I just wanted to make sure we didn't get people from  
> other areas.
>
> Andre'
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Filip" <lfilip at mac.com>
> To: "The Robot Group Mailing List" <robotgroup at puremagic.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [Robotgroup] New low cost embedded controller products  
> comingsoon any RG interesting in developing open source demos?
>
>
>> FYI there is no "Austin Robot Group", just "The Robot Group". The  
>> tireless past and present officers have gone to great lengths to  
>> stop  the spread of the incorrect name. Other than that minor  
>> niggle, these  sound like something many of the members would be  
>> interested in.
>>
>> Take Care,
>> Les
>>
>>
>> On 11 Jul 2008, at 6:58 PM, Andre Lamothe wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't been coming to meetings since I am working on a number  
>>> of projects at the same time, we have 4 new products finishing  
>>> up.  They are based on AVR and PIC processors, and 2 of the  
>>> projects are multiprocessor systems. I usually get 5-10 "demo  
>>> coders" to take  each products, my drivers, docs, etc. read it  
>>> all and then create  cool demos that show off the hardware.  
>>> However, I think that a lot  of RG members will be able to use  
>>> these products in their projects  (anyone that likes basic  
>>> stamps, HC05/11's, arduinos, propeller  chips, rabbit boards etc.  
>>> will like these), especially the  multprocessor products since  
>>> these new controllers are the most  feature packed you can  
>>> imagine and easy to use -- relatively  speaking :)
>>>
>>> Anyway, if there are any master embedded programmers that are   
>>> interested in doing some fun opensource PIC and or AVR coding in  
>>> C/ ASM, I am preferably looking for people that are into tools,   
>>> compilers, and interpreters, I would like to see basic, logo,   
>>> forth, etc. something ported to either or both systems that  
>>> makes  calls to our drivers for video, etc. Thus, not looking for  
>>> graphics  and game programmers per se, but more system  
>>> programmers, that  might like writing little OS, compilers,  
>>> interpreters for these  things and has a lot of experience with  
>>> that kind of technology.  Its also fine to take opensource  
>>> interpreters, etc. and "port" it  to our systems and then add  
>>> features.
>>>
>>> When the products launch, I was thinking it might even be  
>>> possible  to brand some PCBs "Austin Robot Group Edition" and  
>>> sell them from  the RG site and or to dorkbot affliates for a  
>>> discount from the  price we sell them at, thus members get a 10%  
>>> discount or something  potentially, but that's something that we  
>>> can do latter if the RG  is interested in having something like  
>>> that for new members. I am  thinking they join the group, pay X  
>>> normally or pay X+Y to get the  controller at a discount. The RG  
>>> then makes a profit based on the  margin I provide the units at  
>>> if RG were to buy stock, or a simple  commision per each unit  
>>> (probably makes more sense since the RG  probably doesn't want to  
>>> be in the business if stocking and  warehousing embedded systems).
>>>
>>> In any event, any master PIC/AVR systems programmers that work   
>>> fast, like embedded systems, wearable computers, physcial   
>>> computing, and have a passion for compilers, interpreters, OS's,   
>>> etc. that might be interested send me an email.
>>>
>>> Because of competitors, I can't divulge details publicly, but can  
>>> privately, and full disclosure of details, prototypes, etc. will  
>>> be provided under NDA. Graduate students from UT very welcome as  
>>> well,  Ph.d candidates even more welcome :) Just have to know  
>>> your stuff  in practical terms!
>>>
>>> This is unpaid, but you will get to keep the prototype units and   
>>> become famous for your impressive open source demos/tools :)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Andre'
>>>
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