DMD 0.154 release

John C johnch_atms at hotmail.com
Mon Apr 17 02:34:17 PDT 2006


Georg Wrede wrote:
> John C wrote:
> 
>> Derek Parnell wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:41:30 +1000, Georg Wrede <georg at nospam.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let's put it this way: if a programmer insists on using a font where 
>>>> l,  I, 1, O, 0, etc. have the slightest chance of looking like each 
>>>> other,  then that programmer is not one we'd want in the D community.
>>>>
>>>> I promised Derek to not put down a certain programming language, 
>>>> but  let's just say, that anyone with a history of C (or C++), can't 
>>>> in their  worst nightmares, imagine using a font that doesn't make a 
>>>> difference  between 0, O, 1, l, I,,, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ROTFLOL ... I went so far as to create a variety of Courier that 
>>> changed  the lowercase L to look like the lowercase T (t) but without 
>>> the bar, and  put a dot inside the Zero glyph to make it 
>>> distinguishable. If anyone  wants it just let me know.
>>>
>>
>> Consolas nicely distinguishes between the letter O and the number 0. 
>> As do DejaVu Mono and Monaco.
>>
>> It's just a shame Consolas isn't widely available yet (and requires 
>> ClearType to do it justice - which is fine by me, I can't stand 
>> looking at a screen without ClearType turned on anyway).
> 
> 
> It's not about telling folks what such a font would be. It's all (and 
> only) about: _either_ a programmer intuitively goes thorugh the trouble 
> (on whatever platform he happens to be on) of finding a font that does 
> distinguish the letters, or he doesn't. [Unprovoked, without a hint, or 
> advice, or without his teacher, or Bobdamn uncle-in-law demanding it at 
> gunpoint.]

Why shouldn't someone be able offer a (hopefully) helpful suggestion? 
The OP was about altering a font to better distinguish between certain 
glyphs, when there are already fonts available which do that.

Take this in the spirit it was meant. Not as a chance to get all high 
and mighty.

> 
> ---
> 
> (Ok, it's a major holiday now, so I'm trying to be more frank than on 
> regular week-days: I might say that, "if a person is smart enough to 
> roam the net enough to stumble on D, then that's a merit in itself. 
> Then, if that person sees the point of using D as opposed to [the number 
> of] competing languages[like C, C++, Java, Perl, Ruby, or Python], then 
> that, should be considered an equally solid merit.
> 
> Wherefrom follows:(!) we really don't have to tell _that_ guy [ehhhh, 
> that _person_ (after all, I'm from the Noric countries, where they let 
> women become President(!!!!))], which font he should use? Right?



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