dmd 2.029 release
Steven Schveighoffer
schveiguy at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 22 04:42:59 PDT 2009
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:12:04 -0400, Don <nospam at nospam.com> wrote:
> Daniel Keep wrote:
>> Michel Fortin wrote:
>>> On 2009-04-21 11:18:39 -0400, Don <nospam at nospam.com> said:
>>>
>>>> Yes. Actually, marking a nested function as pure doesn't make much
>>>> sense.
>>>> It's entirely equivalent to moving it outside the function; a nested
>>>> pure function shouldn't be able to access any members of the enclosing
>>>> function, otherwise it's not pure. But DMD doesn't enforce that, and
>>>> so it creates inefficient and possibly buggy code.
>>> What about immutable local variables? A pure function can access
>>> immutable globals, so it should be able to access immutable locals too.
>>>
>> If you treat the nested function's context pointer as a pointer to a
>> struct matching the stack layout, then you can have pure nested
>> functions -- they have exactly the same semantics as a pure struct
>> member function.
>> -- Daniel
>
> True, but that would mean that it'd be pretty useless. It's almost
> exactly the same as not marking it pure.
> pure foo(int x)
> {
> int y;
> pure int bar(int z) { return z*z; }
>
> int a= bar(2);
> y++;
> int b = bar(2); // has to recalculate bar(2), because y has changed.
> }
>
> ---
> The basic issue is that the situations where marking a nested function
> as 'pure' is a good idea, is extremely limited.
> Compared to making it an external pure private function, with any
> desired immutable members passed as parameters, it has these advantages
> and disadvantages.
> + inaccessable to other functions in the same module.
> + can access immutable members in the outer function, without passing
> them as parameters.
> - slower, since it needs a context pointer as well as a frame pointer.
>
> I think those benefits are pathetic.
What about treating nested functions of pure functions like a logical
grouping of statements within the function? That is, when you call a
nested function inside a pure function, the call can't be optimized, but
any calls the nested function makes (to a global pure function) can be
optimized, and the nested function still provides the same guarantees
(cannot access any globals, must only call other pure functions), however
it can access and modify locals within the outer function.
I use nested functions a lot not as mini functions within a function but
as simple ways to avoid duplicating code everywhere in my function.
You probably couldn't allow taking a delegate of such a function either.
-Steve
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