d usability?

[new2d]

Seen from the outside, D looks like a very fragmented project of very incomplete software. There are 2 libraries whose merging doesn’t happen, even after a big fuss of argumentations and agreements. The agreed on most important bugs are not getting fixed in favor for, - admittedly a nice, port to the apple os.
The users, who are not so much into compiler construction and the like, are left with bits and pieces, which too much to die but not enough to really live.
Looking through the discussions, everybody seems to know what is need to seriously use D in real world projects. For me its libraries, libraries .... (for DB, UI etc.). Right now there is only a meager lucky bag (except for some lonely projects).
I would suggest, that at least the libraries on dsource be kept up to date with the releases. Any new user who wants to try D, might be intrigued by the language, but will be instantly put off by the lack of libraries. For a “hello world” any basic compiler/interpreter will be enough - for sure.
I hope you people take no offense and i do not want offend anyone here. I admire your work and endurance! But please keep in mind, that this project/language/compiler should not be a therapeutic effort for a few people.
In its current state, i don’t think D will make it to any kind real projects.



Georg Wrede Wrote:

> new2d wrote:
> > But after trying the latest D1 and D2 compilers, it seems like none of the nice libraries and tools of dsource.og are compilable anymore - that’s a shame. 
> > Someday you all will have succeeded to have a super language, whose users and potential new users had to give up on it, due to the lack of libraries and tools. Please have more frequent bug fixes to the compilers and keep the libs and tools of dsource up to date.
> > When will the tango and phobos merge?
> 
> You will hear a lot of explanations about how people won't bother to 
> update D1 stuff "because D2 is shortly out", or D2 stuff "because it's a 
> moving target". All of which seem very legitimate to the writers.
> 
>  From a new user's point (and why not old ones too, especially those 
> outside these newsgroups), it makes no difference whether such 
> explanations are valid or not. The situation itself is bad for D.
> 
> What should be done about it? (Instead of explaining and whining.)
> 
> Can we at least make those libraries and projects that work with the 
> current D more prominent, more visible to the casual or new person? Or 
> something else?